Chainsaw refresher course, who should foot the bill?

[mikecotterill]

Alrite guys this a bit of a long story but here goes. There's a few of us who work for an agency, and a working at a major company, we've just been told that those that have had the chainsaw tickets 5 years or longer will need to go on a 3 day refresher, for which we'll have to pay 250 plus not be paid, now some of us are paye and some are "self employed" (yes I know the issues about self employed, no need to point them out . )

 

So the question is, is there any law that can help us out? Effectively it's going to cost 550 to get a refresher for something that's for life. Any help much appreciated cheers mike

[treequip]

Self employed pay your own

 

PAYE employer should pay

[mikecotterill]

Should they pay for the course and pay you for the day? Cheers mike

[harvey b davison]

As treequip says. I would of thought.

[treequip]

Should they pay for the course and pay you for the day? Cheers mike

 

If you are "cards in" your employer should pay for training and it should be in works time.

[mikecotterill]

Ok cheers, looks like I'm screwed then, As I'm one of the self employed ones.

[Minotaur]

Isit law that says you have to do re-fresher training every 5 years?

What a load of Sh*$e - complete and utter nonsense if you are handling a saw on a regular basis. Just a money spinner for the training companies/instructors and NPTC

 

As above S/e pay for yourself, unfortunately

 

Employed, employer pays course and wages.

[Spruce Pirate]

This is going to be an ongoing battle as more and more people insist on refresher training. In THEORY it should be part of your costs as a S/E person and therefore reflected in the rate you charge. In practice.....?

[monkeybusiness]

3 days is the only p##s take here - if you're self employed then you are effectively a business and as a result you need to cover the costs required to deliver your product (your labour) to your customer. If the product you are supplying doesn't meet their requirements (ie you haven't had the refresher training that they insist upon) then they can easily take their business elsewhere.

Where this is all wrong (and the blame for this has to lie at the door of the training/assessment providers) is that you have to take a 3 DAYcourse to prove that you are capable of performing your daily tasks. Surely this can/should/must be streamlined somehow. If an assessor comes out for a day, and he knows the job (which to be honest may not be a given) he should be able to determine if you are safe and competent or not within that day. If he isn't happy, he could by all means insist upon some further training; otherwise sign the candidate off as competent and away everybody goes to earn some dosh.

[monkeybusiness]

I've given it too much bold and don't know how to turn it off, please don't judge me.