New Groundie: You're Fired!!

[Billy Goat Gruff]

Did you never make any stupid mistakes?

 

I own up,..... I did it was employing that groundie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Billy Goat Gruff]

I'm very confused now You have an experienced crew, with one new starter who you all know is not up to scratch, you leave site, when you return none of the crew have stopped him from doing something stupid or even know he's done it????

 

O.K. this is what happened on the day.

Four of us were working on site, myself and my other most experienced climber ( both of us are fully certified), we dismantled the tree in a short period of time, as we were going to another job in the afternoon.

The new groundie was clearing and chipping for us, and the other one was operating the stump grinder, grinding out the root, and one person was ringing up the trunk, so all staff were working at their jobs, they are all wearing full PPE so no one heard him start up the chipper and fire the stuff through, We have a tracked Timberwolf 190 so quite often we move it about on site, it's not like a road tow stuck behind the van so it often gets started up and no one bats an eyelid,

It's just no one expected him to do that, it's some thing you cannot prejudge,

I do expect that they possibly saw what he had done afterwards, but let him get what was coming his way.

We are all more relaxed now that he has gone, and the new guy shows alot more promise, intelligence etc.

I did give him a fair go as he was on three months probation, but just didn't make the grade.

[skyhuck]

Ah! you have given a much fuller account of what happened, sounds like you made the right call.

[Jason James Gairn]

I agree.

[Red.Squirrel]

Ah ... I finally find the redsquirrel stopping me from having a more simple user name.

 

On topic though, before being reminded about the lieing and then all his other faults I was not looking forward to my first day at work if mistakes (though this is a potentially serious if not stupid one) are punished so harshly.

 

I gotta say I fully agree after reading through your posts. I've worked (not in the tree world) with people who think they know it all, lie about blatant mistakes, and are just irritating to be around. As you've also said the atmosphere has improved since his departure which is always a good sign and should improve not just moral but potentially work flow.

[Mac McLennan]

HARSH -We all make mistakes.

 

That's why pencils have rubbers on them.

[Andy Collins]

HARSH -We all make mistakes.

 

That's why pencils have rubbers on them.

 

D'oh, wondered what that bit was for, when my pencil makes a mistake, i break it in 2 and throw it in the bin!! Pencils are dispensable, too!

[treesuggs]

Firing chip across the road would have got a written warning and re training.

Lying gets the sack.

 

Andy

 

this is the right thing to do, it does get on your t**s some times when your guys do the three wise monkey trick when things go wrong, missing, broken etc, etc, but you have to lead by example and not over react .Follow guidelines that they are aware of so they know whats coming. and what is expected of them, this way they will respect your actions. if your employees lose respect for you because you blow your top at every problem normal working conditions will start to suffer.

[Tommy_B]

i know what u mean, but what i meant was that at college if u didnt have enuff common sence they would just kick you off the course, thats what they dont at your college if your deemed unsafe then you were out.

 

I don't 100% agree with this. The only way you'll get kicked out of college is doing something seriously dangerous (as you mentioned) or not doing the work. Simply having no common sense is NOT a reason to kick someone out of college, and you'd never be able to uphold it.

[Mesterh]

I don't 100% agree with this. The only way you'll get kicked out of college is doing something seriously dangerous (as you mentioned) or not doing the work. Simply having no common sense is NOT a reason to kick someone out of college, and you'd never be able to uphold it.

 

True when I was in college there were plenty of guys and gals with no sense at all.

 

Tbh and this aint a dig at any good genuine tree officers out there but they tried to change the course so they could do a ND/HND to try and go for TO jobs!

Hopefully they all failed