Is this tree Normal or a ticking bomb?

[Parametrics]

Grows Conks Phaeolus schweinitzii - Dyer's Mazegill both sides at base. see pict 1.

 

Leans greater than 15 degrees towards the neighbours house. see pict 2 & 3

 

Has over last month developed long extra stems emanating from base. see pict 4

 

Bark bursting away from trunk with black stuff behind it. see pict 5

 

Mushrooms growing from roots? see pict 6

 

Branches falling at regular intervals some very large!

 

90 foot high Close to Large Lawsonia confer age in access of 30 years.

 

First aid or apply to have it removed??

 

Wot think thee?

[skyhuck]

As suggested I will follow the application with a letter of intent and give and extra week or so after that...this is a tactic used on us when they are after the council tax (which is a bomb around here) I hear The Office needs painting gold leaf again!...but I can't wait eight weeks...They took over three months (RAISE CROWN) on the neighbouring lawsonia...we had branches slapping us in the face everytime we opened the lounge windows.

 

Don't give an extra week, that weakens your case.

 

The tree is dangerous, give the 5 days required, then get it down.

 

If you wait longer they may argue it's obviously not as bad as you claim.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

your poll s a hard one to vote on metrics! how long is a piece of string? your tree would take about 5 hours with the right kit longer without heavy gear but would be cheaper as lower overheads of the firm doing that. swings and roundabouts. more time same money as less time just different approaches to the same job

[Marc]

Wonder if an arbtalk thread would be an accepted defence in court?

At the end of the day it's the targets that mean this tree should must come down, ticking time bomb isn't everything these days.

Find a competent tree works company explain the situation and go with their opinion, and for god sake put them ladders away removing limbs will not help and could possibly make things worse!

[Parametrics]

A reduction could see this tree safe for decades, but long term, its going to be a downward spiral. where are you metrics?

EXcuse my ignorance at your terms...metrics.??? I am a Landsurveyor...I just stuck up the EDM Totalstation Theodolite ..Or what ever you call it nowadays.. and shot a few points..It records X Y and Z data so its realatively easy to work out the height... To be more accurate I should have set up some 200 metres further back but I live in a housing estate... so not enough room....They should design mini trees for places like this.?!?

 

REDUCTION.... I am not sure you grasp the concept of this tree. A Scots Pine (mature) has all or most of its branches at one level...THE TOP.. REDUCTION would produce a very bizzare looking stump some 50 to 60 ft high... That should make the local paper for sure!!

[Marc]

I agree with Hama the tree could be retained by maybe reducing sail area and still keep its aesthetics, but givin the location it's not the right choice unfortunately looks like a fell is the only option, I,ve worked on much bigger trees with similar symptoms only with very few targets.

 

As for mini trees in housing estates hell no, as far as I,m concerned we do not have enough mature trees in the urban environment, again where I am working now you will find huge much larger than your tree barely meters away from houses with the canopies spreading well over the roof tops, people can co habit with very mature trees quite well when managed and surprisingly they love them and do not look at them as threats.

 

 

EXcuse my ignorance at your terms...metrics.??? I am a Landsurveyor...I just stuck up the EDM Totalstation Theodolite ..Or what ever you call it nowadays.. and shot a few points..It records X Y and Z data so its realatively easy to work out the height... To be more accurate I should have set up some 200 metres further back but I live in a housing estate... so not enough room....They should design mini trees for places like this.?!?

 

REDUCTION.... I am not sure you grasp the concept of this tree. A Scots Pine (mature) has all or most of its branches at one level...THE TOP.. REDUCTION would produce a very bizzare looking stump some 50 to 60 ft high... That should make the local paper for sure!!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

EXcuse my ignorance at your terms...metrics.??? I am a Landsurveyor...I just stuck up the EDM Totalstation Theodolite ..Or what ever you call it nowadays.. and shot a few points..It records X Y and Z data so its realatively easy to work out the height... To be more accurate I should have set up some 200 metres further back but I live in a housing estate... so not enough room....They should design mini trees for places like this.?!?

 

REDUCTION.... I am not sure you grasp the concept of this tree. A Scots Pine (mature) has all or most of its branches at one level...THE TOP.. REDUCTION would produce a very bizzare looking stump some 50 to 60 ft high... That should make the local paper for sure!!

 

thats why your a land surveyor and i am an arb!

[Parametrics]

your poll s a hard one to vote on metrics! how long is a piece of string? your tree would take about 5 hours with the right kit longer without heavy gear but would be cheaper as lower overheads of the firm doing that. swings and roundabouts. more time same money as less time just different approaches to the same job

EXactly my point mate you are spot on.>> This is a poll of peoples personal opinion usually from their own personal experience...It also has the public view/stance who have to go through planning...It is becoming clear that from the results that we all seem to be in the same boat with these tree restrictions and sadly around here they seriously would rather a few motorists died first before lobbing a few branches...With regards to actually cutting the tree down its a matter of safety, type of equipement, preparedness and the speed you want to run your life. If I was a tree surgeon I would not want to cut this monster down and also have in the back of my head the thought that.... I have got to get 30 miles up the road to do another..

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I agree with Hama the tree could be retained by maybe reducing sail area and still keep its aesthetics, but givin the location it's not the right choice unfortunately looks like a fell is the only option, I,ve worked on much bigger trees with similar symptoms only with very few targets.

 

As for mini trees in housing estates hell no, as far as I,m concerned we do not have enough mature trees in the urban environment, again where I am working now you will find huge much larger than your tree barely meters away from houses with the canopies spreading well over the roof tops, people can co habit with very mature trees quite well when managed and surprisingly they love them and do not look at them as threats.

 

 

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

EXactly my point mate you are spot on.>> This is a poll of peoples personal opinion usually from their own personal experience...It also has the public view/stance who have to go through planning...It is becoming clear that from the results that we all seem to be in the same boat with these tree restrictions and sadly around here they seriously would rather a few motorists died first before lobbing a few branches...With regards to actually cutting the tree down its a matter of safety, type of equipement, preparedness and the speed you want to run your life. If I was a tree surgeon I would not want to cut this monster down and also have in the back of my head the thought that.... I have got to get 30 miles up the road to do another..

 

 

nonsense, an unsafe tree that is still standing is not the same as an unsafe tree to climb, I could climb that in full confidence I would maybe avoid rigging off the material though, but its a clean site no greenhouse under it, a very VERY straightforward fell, and dont let anyone tell you otherwise, spikes on, branches off as you climb up lightening the load, logs ringed off on way back down:thumbup1:

[Mesterh]

The propping idea made me laugh. It certainly would alay my fears to have it propped. I do have a driveway large enough to house a 100 ton crane but I think the Mrs might have something to say about it. How much are they to hire?

 

Thanks to all for the input.

 

More than a tree firm would charge to get it down and remove it.

 

Just get a local firm in to take it down, job done no more worries.