Tacho rules

[Shane]

There must be someone on the forum with a brain the size of a planet who could draw up a flowchart so us gumbies can get our heads around this. This topic has appeared so often yet I can't say hand on heart I am 100% confident in my understanding of it.

 

I need a diagram - words confuse me.

[ROG.]

Best I could find was this

http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/small-trailer-leaflet/small-trailer-leaflet.pdf

[renewablejohn]

“O” licensing works by the weight of the towing vehicle.

 

Any vehicle over 3500kg requires an "O" licence, any trailer that is drawn by vehicles on the licence needs to be on the licence unless you hold a restricted UK licence, in which case there is no requirement to include trailers under 3500kg

 

 

Not quite true as I operate my 7.5 tonne curtain side truck under the dual purpose rules carrying my own goods.

[renewablejohn]

Heres the dual purpose exemption and the Part 2 rules for farming and forestry which might be useful for some people

 

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Vehicles%20Exempt%20From%20Operator%20Licensing%20Requirements.pdf

[ROG.]

Not quite true as I operate my 7.5 tonne curtain side truck under the dual purpose rules carrying my own goods.

Which one of the DUAL PURPOSE EXEMPTIONS does it fall into?

[treequip]

Not quite true as I operate my 7.5 tonne curtain side truck under the dual purpose rules carrying my own goods.

 

How did you get a 7500kg (road going?)vehicle into dual purpose?

[renewablejohn]

Fitted a tow bar and registered at local VOSA test station (Chadderton) as dual purpose vehicle when MOT was undertaken. Does help having horsebox, plant trailer, and flat trailer. Original purpose of dual purpose was to allow a horse box to be pulled by a land rover with two horses. Now with the trailer weight rules you need a bigger vehicle to tow the horsebox or only transport one horse at a time.

[renewablejohn]

Which one of the DUAL PURPOSE EXEMPTIONS does it fall into?

 

Item 2 on the list is dual purpose vehicle

[treequip]

Fitted a tow bar and registered at local VOSA test station (Chadderton) as dual purpose vehicle when MOT was undertaken. Does help having horsebox, plant trailer, and flat trailer. Original purpose of dual purpose was to allow a horse box to be pulled by a land rover with two horses. Now with the trailer weight rules you need a bigger vehicle to tow the horsebox or only transport one horse at a time.

 

VOSA don't register vehicles, that would be the DVLA

 

 

Dual-purpose (road and off-road) vehicles. This includes all dual-purpose vehicles, such as Land Rovers, Range Rovers, Jeeps, 4x4s and their trailers - that are designed to go over rough ground as well as on roads, provided they do not weigh more than 2,040 kilograms when unladen.

 

So how did you get a 7500kg (mam) vehicle to weigh less than 2,040kg empty?

[Treewolf]

How did you get a 7500kg (road going?)vehicle into dual purpose?

 

 

To fall into the definition of a DPV, a vehicle must have a MAM (Maximum Authorised Mass, ie GVW) not exceeding 3500lg and an unladen weight not exceeding 2040kg, as well full- or part-time all-wheel-drive and/or other qualifying features.

 

If a vehicle weighs more than 2040kg unladen or has a MAM in excess of 3500kg then it cannot under any circumstances be a DPV.

 

The definition of a DPV for all legal purposes is the definition contained in the Motor Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986 (as amended), and is very specific and quite simple. It is entirely based on the design characteristics of the vehicle and not the way it is actually used.

 

There is no way that a 7.5 tonne GVW curtain-sider can possibly legally be a DPV.