Saving the old growth- you must see this!

[elicokiz]

Check out this amazing video by the same producer of Home, it is simply stunning

Of Forests and People - education - Home - Un film de Yann Arthus-Bertrand

 

Dave:thumbup:

[David Goss]

Thanks for posting that tony, I stuck it on my Facebook as well. The more people that see that the better IMO.

[john p]

very good,planted 15 trees this weekend,watching that makes it feel even more worth while

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

This will be one of the best 44 minutes youll ever spend

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc99ikb3KXY&list=PL919AAAC7C516CE0E&feature=plcp&context=C40e58f7FDvjVQa1PpcFOiETaZUeRUcEMxpvn3lsphVwp77c4SXyE=]Activism, Deep Ecology & the Gaian Era - Lynn Margulis, Stephen Buhner and John Seed - YouTube[/ame]

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFRdy7o3DPE&list=PLD4625C557A777CFA&feature=plcp&context=C46d44dcFDvjVQa1PpcFOiETaZUeRUcDgqbRWygGLJiq1PzFCI_SA=]Julia Butterfly Dateline 2-14-99 - YouTube[/ame]

[Warren Stirling]

When I worked for my first tree company 15 years ago we had the tree planting contract for the council and it is very satisfying to walk through the streets and park next to me to see the trees that I planted thriving and standing there inconspicuously.

I do think that whilst it is important to plant and maintain the native species of tree in this country, after all they have proved to be the survivors over the years in this climate, other habitats can be forgotten. Here in the south east for example chalk grassland and lowland heathland. There is 5% left of the latter remaining from 100 years ago. On the Ashdown forest every year when the annual clearance begins there is always an outcry that native trees are being felled, oaks and birch. They say, 'its a forest, why are trees being cut down?. Off subject but education on what the word forest actually means is a start.They dont read interpretation boards on the heathland and presume that because trees are bigger that they are more important.

 

I studied this subject and peoples awarenes of the importance of maintaining a mozaic of habitats throughut the landscape last year. 75% of people that I surveyed think that woodland in the UK is decreasing. Yes carbon dioxide absorbtion is an extremely important role of woodland, and woody forests! But we need biodiversity and so do trees. Fortunately government policy makers have cottoned on to this, stewardship scheme grants for beetle banks and pollen and seed strips for example.

 

Basically, yes of course its important that we do our best to protect the area covered by mature natives for the reasons discussed but we need to educate on the importance of the less conspicuous plants that maybe dont have the same striking majestic effect that a 1000 yr old oak might. In class rooms you see a poster of a mature tree with pictures of some of the wildlife that it supports dotted around it but you dont see a poster of a tatty piece of heather and what it supports, would'nt have the same effect would it.

 

Its the developing countries that need to pull their fingers out on education for a sustainable environment issues, yes the rain forests for example. So its in all our interests that pressure is applied to reduce this loss of C02 and harmfull metals reducing plants in these countries instead of sitting around watching timber foating down the Amazon on telly documentaries, complaining about it and doing nothing.

 

Rant over!

[RobArb]

This will be one of the best 44 minutes youll ever spend

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc99ikb3KXY&list=PL919AAAC7C516CE0E&feature=plcp&context=C40e58f7FDvjVQa1PpcFOiETaZUeRUcEMxpvn3lsphVwp77c4SXyE=]Activism, Deep Ecology & the Gaian Era - Lynn Margulis, Stephen Buhner and John Seed - YouTube[/ame]

 

Although I find you current cause very noble and worthwhile, I can't help but wonder how much of this is "preaching". Similar to the christian thread and how some rather devout christian force their message (not all by the way) on everyday folk...

 

It happens in all walks of life, beliefs of one thing or another that are truly believed and lived by that person that they take over and consume rationality (imo).

 

Again this is NOT a criticism, I am fully aware of the path you have chosen and commend you for choices, but it just feels as though a message is being preached, which I don't agree with.

 

Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Whilst I totaly agree with the mozaics point and biodiversity, these old growth woods are engines of that proscess, and are so important. simply replanting them is NOT going to work in the way we imagine.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Although I find you current cause very noble and worthwhile, I can't help but wonder how much of this is "preaching". Similar to the christian thread and how some rather devout christian force their message (not all by the way) on everyday folk...

 

It happens in all walks of life, beliefs of one thing or another that are truly believed and lived by that person that they take over and consume rationality (imo).

 

Again this is NOT a criticism, I am fully aware of the path you have chosen and commend you for choices, but it just feels as though a message is being preached, which I don't agree with.

 

Sent from Rob's GalaxySII

 

that is your free choice, but bear in mind you have just exposed as so many others have a very narrow perception of that message. I guess some poeple will not acept the truth and the discomfort that goes with accepting that we are on a path that we will see end the reign of the human animal.

[Warren Stirling]

I totally agree, if we dont protect whats there, replanting will be a like peeing in the wind