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Thats for you and mr Vosa to decide unfortuneatly non of us can give you a definitive answer!

 

Actually fuel is nowt to do with VOSA, it’s the domain of Her Majesties Customs and Excise (HMCE Road Fuel Duty Unit)

 

Moreover there is nothing left to decide. The revision of the Hydrocarbon Oils Duty act schedule 1 formalised things and that is definitive.

 

Andy

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It depends on the situation. If the mog is AG spec and registered as a tractor then it can run on red just like a tractor, HMCE hold that it should be identical to a tractor so you can’t carry chip or logs on the mog but you can carry them in a trailer drawn by the mog.

 

What if its registered as an "agricultural vehicle"?

 

Cropspayers can run on red and carry a load.

 

As do combinedharvisters.

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What if its registered as an "agricultural vehicle"?

 

Cropspayers can run on red and carry a load.

 

As do combinedharvisters.

 

 

here we go again haven't we done this to death before??:001_cool:

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I'm just pointing out that its STILL NOT set in stone as to were the law stands.

 

Sorry Dave misunderstood your post, yeah I agree nothing is set in stone, there will allways be different interpretations of the rules even from HMRCE offices.

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If you carry a load on the mog, you cannot use red. You will notice HMRC have given exemptions to self propelled crop spraying equiptment and combines in their Revised Hydrocarbon Oil Duty Act. We sold the Mog after they firmed up the rules.

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What "load" do crop sprayers carry? Surely the spray mix is not a load its part of the machinery doing a task, unless you are taking it to sell the chemical mix to someone else?

 

And a combine can never be used as anything other than a combine, it can't get confused with a road going truck or tractor that may or may not be an agri vehicle?

 

Its years since I drove a Mog so I'm out of date (as with most things) but we ran it on red, carried wood chip in it and even went on the motorway but I knew I was pushing my luck!

 

I got a flat tire on the M6 once and just sat waiting to see if the Agri tyre company or the cops would show up first! One hour later trye back on rim and away we go no worries!

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What "load" do crop sprayers carry? Surely the spray mix is not a load its part of the machinery doing a task, unless you are taking it to sell the chemical mix to someone else?

 

And a combine can never be used as anything other than a combine, it can't get confused with a road going truck or tractor that may or may not be an agri vehicle?

 

Its years since I drove a Mog so I'm out of date (as with most things) but we ran it on red, carried wood chip in it and even went on the motorway but I knew I was pushing my luck!

 

I got a flat tire on the M6 once and just sat waiting to see if the Agri tyre company or the cops would show up first! One hour later trye back on rim and away we go no worries!

 

How many years we talking?

 

I was pulled and weight on the M6 just over five years ago, they said nothing about me being on the motorway or running on red.

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