Abolition of the small trailer exemption Dec 4th 2011

[Paul Smith]

don’t call me Shirley

 

Didn't think anyone would get it!

 

Does seem like a grey area!

[jaime bray]

Driving Standards Agency has held a mini-consultation and the new regulations

will be in force prior to December.

Abolition of the small trailer exemption

Paragraph 3 of Schedule 1 of the Goods Vehicle (Licensing of Operators) Act

1995 exempts from operator licensing a ‘small goods vehicle’ forming part of a

vehicle combination (not being an articulated combination) where all the

vehicles comprising the combination excluding any ‘small trailer’ have a plated

weight not exceeding 3.5 tonnes.

A small trailer is defined under the Act as a trailer with an unladen weight not

exceeding 1020kg. This trailer does not need to be included when calculating

the 3.5 tonne limit.

However, under the Regulation all the vehicle combination (including any trailer)

operating for hire or reward must be included when calculating the weight limit,

so the small trailer exemption will be abolished for hire or reward operations

from 4 December 2011. However, the small trailer exemption under paragraph

3 of schedule 1 of the Goods Vehicle (Licensing of Operators) Act 1995 will

remain in place for operators carrying goods other than for hire or reward.

 

 

 

 

results from vosa public consultation..... 1st two sentances are worrying!!!!!

 

dot results... sorry!!!!![/QUOT

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Traffic commisioners phone number, anyone in the know who knows what to ask, care to take the lead, 0113 2543284.

 

Tacho number 01562 68173.

 

Someone please for the sake of this thread, ring with the relevant questions, i do not know what to ask!!!"

[Paul Smith]

Driving Standards Agency has held a mini-consultation and the new regulations

will be in force prior to December.

Abolition of the small trailer exemption

Paragraph 3 of Schedule 1 of the Goods Vehicle (Licensing of Operators) Act

1995 exempts from operator licensing a ‘small goods vehicle’ forming part of a

vehicle combination (not being an articulated combination) where all the

vehicles comprising the combination excluding any ‘small trailer’ have a plated

weight not exceeding 3.5 tonnes.

A small trailer is defined under the Act as a trailer with an unladen weight not

exceeding 1020kg. This trailer does not need to be included when calculating

the 3.5 tonne limit.

However, under the Regulation all the vehicle combination (including any trailer)

operating for hire or reward must be included when calculating the weight limit,

so the small trailer exemption will be abolished for hire or reward operations

from 4 December 2011. However, the small trailer exemption under paragraph

3 of schedule 1 of the Goods Vehicle (Licensing of Operators) Act 1995 will

remain in place for operators carrying goods other than for hire or reward.

 

 

 

 

results from vosa public consultation..... 1st two sentances are worrying!!!!!

 

dot results... sorry!!!!![/QUOT

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Traffic commisioners phone number, anyone in the know who knows what to ask, care to take the lead, 0113 2543284.

 

Tacho number 01562 68173.

 

Someone please for the sake of this thread, ring with the relevant questions, i do not know what to ask!!!"

 

That numbers in Leeds. Come on you Yorkshire Tykes get down there and lets here it from the horses mouth!

[treequip]

Panic over

 

The exemption that is being removed is an exemption under the current licence NOT an exemption from licencing. Further it only applies to UK National or International licences.

 

If you are a jobbing tree surgeon you would be eligible for a UK restricted licence so no change for you.

 

If you don’t have an “O” licence you can happily disregard this entire thread.:thumbup:

[Crazy Cutter]

Panic over

 

The exemption that is being removed is an exemption under the current licence NOT an exemption from licencing. Further it only applies to UK National or International licences.

 

If you are a jobbing tree surgeon you would be eligible for a UK restricted licence so no change for you.

 

If you don’t have an “O” licence you can happily disregard this entire thread.:thumbup:

 

So we all carry on as before, be it towing a trailer with logs or chipper. What line do we take when pulled by VOSA and theres someone who doesn't understand the regs?

 

The point i was making about the unladen weight is that you can then still use it to its max weight as long as its unladen weight is below 1050kg for the calculation.

[treequip]

The traffic commissioners have issued guidance and training on this subject so while I wouldn’t be surprised if someone takes the time to checks the facts they should be on top of it. The changes only apply to licence holders so if you don’t have a disk in the window the issue shouldn’t even come up. Anyone with a licence just needs to know that the changes only apply to full UK and international licence holders

 

We need to get away from the idea that a chipper is something different to a goods carrying trailer, it’s not. For the purposes of vehicles, licencing, haulage etc. they are considered one and the same.

[porky]

Right then, I can go back to sleeping at night

[arbogrunt]

phew!, that was a relief, as I was going to totally disregard this piece of unwanted Euro-legislation...like several other bits of unwanted legislation I'm currently disregarding!

[Johny Walker]

dont realy know why you all got in a flap about it

[Crazy Cutter]

I would guess the EU will be round to see you next for the child labour in your photo?