Duty of care

[scotspine1]

because thats the area of MOST stress

 

you dont know that for sure, but lets say it is for argument's sake.

 

So your saying the bark has cracked due to excessive reaction wood being placed under the bark in that area causing the bark to split?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

you dont know that for sure, but lets say it is for argument's sake.

 

So your saying the bark has cracked due to excessive reaction wood being placed under the bark in that area causing the bark to split?

 

yes, and if you want to look youll also see the slight fibre buckles in the region PROVING the need for the extra growth, also that the extra band stops at the wider point at the lower region.

 

this is basic.

[RobArb]

I give in:lol:

 

Fell it!

[brassmonkey001]

Speaking as a non-arborist, in a similar situation if I felt there was a possibility of failure I would print off 2 copies of a letter stating my recommendations for what work needed doing and get the client to sign my copy to cover my arse.

If I felt there was a very real risk of failure in the near future then I would call for a second opinion. I presume a TO is a council representative? A Tree Officer, perhaps?

If immediate danger then fetch it down. I'd rather face an angry customer refusing payment than have an avoidable death on my conscience.

 

Just my two penn'orth.

[Taupotreeman]

For what it's worth; I can't understand why it can't be removed anyway and better specimen, more suitable for the location, planted as part of the removal consent. To some degree I agree with kjames. Why are we so desperate to save every single tree? OK let the muck slinging begin.

[bumble B]

For what it's worth; I can't understand why it can't be removed anyway and better specimen, more suitable for the location, planted as part of the removal consent. To some degree I agree with kjames. Why are we so desperate to save every single tree? OK let the muck slinging begin.

Totally agree.

 

Replant with Conifers if it is on a boundary:lol:

 

Loads of people replant or plant with the wrong specimens so where is the harm in rmoving and replanting. Apart from the obvious!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

so lets all just going around making dodgy VTA assesments so we can justify felling trees?

 

you lot need a clip round the lug oles

[treesnatcher]

Are the trees definitely Acer pseudoplatanoides?

 

What is Acer pseudoplatanoides common name?

Think he means Acer pseudoplatanus common syc

Acer platanoides is norway maple.

i would guess it syc from the leaf definition and form in 3rd pic need clearer pic of leaf:001_smile:

[Andy Collins]

so lets all just going around making dodgy VTA assesments so we can justify felling trees?

 

you lot need a clip round the lug oles

 

I think that the recent events of branch failure leading to unfortunate deaths have made people more cautious, and made them question decisions made. This, IMO, cannot be a bad thing as we are all responsible for these decisions. Many VTA's rely on the amount and quality of knowledge that each of us has, some know far more than others, we only have so long on a site visit to assess a given tree, and maybe carry out any necessary research, and inevitably this could lead to wrongly (in certain cases) removing trees or carrying out far more drastic work than really necessary. With the decline in the economy I also feel people (clients) want to see what they perceive to be value for money, ie more cuts for the bucks

[RobArb]

Ok, ok, I realise I mistake has been made as I was semi-ranting and yes I did mean pseudoplatanus:blush:, I should of proof read my post...

 

The question really though rather than was it or wasn't it a crack was were does the duty of care lie in similar situations?

 

I'm gonna refrain from trying to learn VTA for the mo:lol: