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[Marc]

Toprotter that VT set-up looks like it will not grab reliably try another braid or wrap, also i'm not a fan on spliced prussik waste of money in my opinion. That beeline looks to long.

 

I had fairly bad tendonitis in my right arm a few years back, using a prussik and body thrusting used to cause me some discomfort.

I found it was a lopsided way of climbing, as i would pull with both arms then hold with my right at around hip height putting pressure on my right elbow and favouring only my right side.

With a tending hitch distel/knut/vt I can pull above my hitch and head in a more balanced position then hold my position with my left arm locked straight whilst i tend the slack with my right.

 

My tendonitis no longer gives me problems..

[toprotter]

Marc

Thanks mate I will shorten the beeline and give it a go- I guess the shorter it is the more responsive it is to the flick -a couplemore wraps it will be...

Who says you cant teach an old dog new tricks !!

 

Your spot on about the prussik hence I am trying this out any more tips would be greatly appreciated.

I love climbing and if this enables me to carry on "HAPPY DAYS"

Im dreading the days of being office bound.....!

[Blakes 7]

I'm changing to HC / VT set up. Is there any benefit in adding a sling/ lanyard to the attachment from harness to HC, so as to give greater distance between the two?

[Rich Rule]

I'm changing to HC / VT set up. Is there any benefit in adding a sling/ lanyard to the attachment from harness to HC, so as to give greater distance between the two?

 

I know a few guys who climb like this have tried it now and again. It just means that with the hitch away from you, pulling below the HC automatically advances the hitch and then brng in short again for movement within the crown. IME if the hitch is TDS correctly with the correct combination of cord / rope then it self tends once the weight of the rope is sufficient. I got some Tachyon yesterday and tried it out on a small climb with Armor pruss cord and the hitch was self tending about 10-12 feet off the floor. No need to lengthen the bridge.

[MattyF]

I'm changing to HC / VT set up. Is there any benefit in adding a sling/ lanyard to the attachment from harness to HC, so as to give greater distance between the two?

 

no benifit i can think of infact it would just make it more awkward if i can picture what your explaining as its just putting every thing further out of reach:confused1:

[softbankhawks]

I'm changing to HC / VT set up. Is there any benefit in adding a sling/ lanyard to the attachment from harness to HC, so as to give greater distance between the two?

 

Yes there is a benefit in that the hitch bites between every pull.

[Log-ologist]

wattie , I like the old fart bit. I turned 37 last week and still whip the young uns.

 

I went over to the VT style as soon as I saw it. I have never looked back. ( though I do tie a 3 knot system in the tail of the rope when an extra tie in is wanted. The youngsters usually think I'm nuts but you have to be able to pull tricks out the hat when you want, just to show whos boss)

 

Good luck in trying out new styles.

[Blakes 7]

Just been out experimenting.

Tried both with and without. My VT does not self tend, do I need less wraps?

Works really well with a pantin might try this and no extension.

Got the pantin for frog walking SRT, it is much easier than two feet in same loop

[D Mc]

Toprotter, if you lengthen the loop on your bowline, you will be able to girth hitch it onto your carabiner. This will reduce the chance of side loading the carabiner and keep it from flopping around. On your VT, you might want to sample less wraps and more braids.

 

Blakes7, Take a look at the pictures on post #6. You can do the same thing with a hitch climber. The benefit here, is there are times when the VT does not self-tend and guys have a nasty habit of going up 4 to 8 ft and then tending their slack. This is a great opportunity for bad things to happen.

 

Log-ologist: That's the right attitude, recognizing when a technique is easier and more efficient will allow you to keep whipping the younguns' when you are even a bit longer in the tooth.

 

Dave

[Peter]

My VT does not self tend, do I need less wraps?

 

Maybe. How many wraps and braids are you using? 3-2 or 4-1 are good combos. It is very sensitive to the length of the tails, so you could try lengthening the cord slightly.

Self tending is always a tradeoff between the slack dropping through smoothly and the hitch not grabbing at all!