Cutting and holding!

[arbormaster]

in the right circumstances its not unsafe. obviously it takes experience and judgment to know when you can do it or not. saying its unsafe full stop is wrong IMO. if you doubt the safety of doing it use a rope or step cut, thats my view

[ecolojim]

when i started cutting and holding with my silky, the main thing i was worried about was not always being able to gauge whether id be able to hold it with my left hand securely enough. The instructor on my cs38 told me to girth hitch one of my webbing slings round the branches if they were borderline weight wise. then i can transfer the branch to my right hand and remove the sling before dropping the branch from the tree. works wonders and only takes a couple more seconds on the odd branch Ive used it on.

 

perhaps on the occasion where space is at a premium, and cut and hold is necessary, it would afford the climber some more space between soft fleshy bits and sharp whizzy bits?

 

Probably a stupid suggestion

[Andy R]

when i started cutting and holding with my silky, the main thing i was worried about was not always being able to gauge whether id be able to hold it with my left hand securely enough. The instructor on my cs38 told me to girth hitch one of my webbing slings round the branches if they were borderline weight wise. then i can transfer the branch to my right hand and remove the sling before dropping the branch from the tree. works wonders and only takes a couple more seconds on the odd branch Ive used it on.

 

perhaps on the occasion where space is at a premium, and cut and hold is necessary, it would afford the climber some more space between soft fleshy bits and sharp whizzy bits?

 

Probably a stupid suggestion

 

absolutely not...I cut and hold whenever I feel the need, and if the weight of the branch, direction of weight is a bit suspect I have a couple of short strops with a large knot at one end for holding and a crab at the other...clip it on, cut the branch, swing it and drop...groundie takes care of the strop...

 

do whatever you feel comfortable/confident with...every climber is different.

[Bundle 2]

No brainer.....

[Ian150482]

I cut and hold with a silky, on accasion but not with chainsaw, think it too risky, one slip and its game over. You could leave a thick enough hinge so it would hold then break it off. Thats just my opinion.

[Bundle 2]

Cut and chuck...basic nptc protocol

[Rupe]

The only time I've cut myself with a silky (and this happens a lot!!) is when getting it out of the scabbard or putting it away! Its the movement to and from the cut that is dangerous.

 

A chainsaw is similar in some ways, other than kickback, once its in the cut its a lot safer than when its out.

[TREELINE]

but then theres always the unexpected. had an ash branch fail on me the other day after i'd wedged me foot on it for 5 mins or more. glad i had 2 hands on the saw but it was a slight surprise.

Silkys account for more injuries but i'll have 100 cut fingers to only one hand left any day. Just stick a rope up - its just as quick as you can rig bigger than you can hold. (reminder to self)

[Alex]

Got to put my bit in here.

 

Cut and hold with a chain saw?

In my eyes if some one needs use this methord they can't have a brain, you want to cut your self with a chain saw, use it one handed you want that cut to put you out of work for life or in a wooden box cut and hold.

 

If you have got a brain you should be able to work round the situation and plan ahead right from the moment you see the tree, weather thats quoteing or doing your risk assessment when you get sent to the job site.

 

Any one who cut and holds and justifes it as the only way to get on etc, is not comppedent to use the saw and needs to drop the ego get some new knowlege and live a full and happy life.

 

It's not just your self you will effect but those around you watching you losing pint after pint of clarrate as the strugale to get to you and the come to terms with it all years after.

 

Mozza you know you are right the hard part is now getting through the bone head you are working with. Good luck you will need it.

You can shoot away chaps but you know I am on the safe side of the still unharmed fence.

[scotspine1]

Any one who cut and holds and justifes it as the only way to get on etc, is not comppedent to use the saw and needs to drop the ego get some new knowlege and live a full and happy life.

 

Are you syaing that people who cut and hold dont live a full and happy life?........

 

 

.......your probably right.