Natural England pulling up trees

[Johny Walker]

could the trees not be dug up & planted some were moor suitable ???

[janey]

nobody is mentioning it is also fantastic reptilian habitat too? many an adder would be found basking in the spaces between

 

I did

[RobArb]

hama how could you ignore janey like that, tsk tsk:lol:

[Andy Collins]

Last year we had a contract to fell many many trees for just this reason. It totally baffled me too. Yes there were many adders and other reptiles, we saw where they'd been squashed by the large chipping machines running up and down the site. Sometimes I feel Man interferes too much.

[ecolojim]

what Im not overly fond of is the obsession with 'heathland regen' as if it's the fashionable thing at the moment. Heathland regen = woodland degen,

 

as others have pointed out, heathland is not a climax condition. That's not to say it isnt a valuable habitat, but it isnt a balance between ecology and productive land useage in the way that woodland CAN be, which is IMO what we ought to be concentrating on in this resource poor time. In managing woodland for its produce as well as ecology, the heathland will occur in the same way that it did hundreds of years ago. What concerns me is a heck of a lot of heathland being created 'just because'. This may not be wholly fair, but there do seem to be occasions of 'tunnel vision'

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

what Im not overly fond of is the obsession with 'heathland regen' as if it's the fashionable thing at the moment. Heathland regen = woodland degen,

 

as others have pointed out, heathland is not a climax condition. That's not to say it isnt a valuable habitat, but it isnt a balance between ecology and productive land useage in the way that woodland CAN be, which is IMO what we ought to be concentrating on in this resource poor time. In managing woodland for its produce as well as ecology, the heathland will occur in the same way that it did hundreds of years ago. What concerns me is a heck of a lot of heathland being created 'just because'. This may not be wholly fair, but there do seem to be occasions of 'tunnel vision'

 

I totaly agree:thumbup1:

 

Its the WAY its done, there are so many better ways than running over the regen with a massive tub grinder!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

hama how could you ignore janey like that, tsk tsk:lol:

 

I am always easy on our janey, i have to be, when walking in the woods shes got short legs and biker boots, and her head starts to melt if we give her too much info in one go!

[iainarkle]

Some really good points on both sides here...remember we (humans) have worked and managed the land for thousands of years and are mere stewards of it today. Our natural heritage is what it is, not what it used to be and the reintroduction of species (animal, tree, vegetation, etc) is a hugely contentious issues.

I am all for protecting what we have, where appropriate, the reintroduction and irradiation of what is or isn't supposed to be here. Trying to re-create something that has not been there for thousands of years is never going to please everyone and do not forget the environment when it was here is now very very different - weather systems, nutrients, pollutants, people!, animals...you get my drift.

To things worth having a look at are Alladale and The European Nature Trust. Both set up by Paul Lister and doing both re-introduction and protection. Enjoy

[Tom D]

If you want to see how to integrate agriculture, forestry, game hunting and the preservation of wild areas go to france. The way they manage their landscape is an example we could learn a lot from.

[Sam Thompson]

If you want to see how to integrate agriculture, forestry, game hunting and the preservation of wild areas go to france. The way they manage their landscape is an example we could learn a lot from.

 

Just don't go there to learn how to shoot things...