Ash, Included Bark

[log dog]

i aLWAYS THINK THE DECISION TO REMOVE OR PRUNE OR LEAVE WELL ALONE USUALLY RESTS WITH OWNER. I FIND IF YOU DONT REALLY SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR OR AGREE WITH THEM, YOU WONT GET THE JOB ! SOME TIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH THERE WISHES . FOR WHAT MY OPINION IS WORTH EVERY ONE SHOULD KEEP GIVING OPINIONS AS THERE IS ALWAYS VALUE IN ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS KEEP A OPEN MIND ?

[Mesterh]

What about removing the leaning stem and replanting with a view to complete removal when required.

[sean]

i aLWAYS THINK THE DECISION TO REMOVE OR PRUNE OR LEAVE WELL ALONE USUALLY RESTS WITH OWNER. I FIND IF YOU DONT REALLY SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR OR AGREE WITH THEM, YOU WONT GET THE JOB ! SOME TIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH THERE WISHES . FOR WHAT MY OPINION IS WORTH EVERY ONE SHOULD KEEP GIVING OPINIONS AS THERE IS ALWAYS VALUE IN ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS KEEP A OPEN MIND ?

 

what about turning your caps lock off??

[David Goss]

I would say brace it to be safe, maybe take a little out of the sail as well but if you are so worried, brace it. Other than that fell it and plant a cherry

[western]

I would say brace it to be safe, maybe take a little out of the sail as well but if you are so worried, brace it. Other than that fell it and plant a cherry

 

valid point imo:thumbup1:

[rammer]

i aLWAYS THINK THE DECISION TO REMOVE OR PRUNE OR LEAVE WELL ALONE USUALLY RESTS WITH OWNER. I FIND IF YOU DONT REALLY SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR OR AGREE WITH THEM, YOU WONT GET THE JOB ! SOME TIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH THERE WISHES . FOR WHAT MY OPINION IS WORTH EVERY ONE SHOULD KEEP GIVING OPINIONS AS THERE IS ALWAYS VALUE IN ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS KEEP A OPEN MIND ?

 

Caps lock aside:001_smile: This is a good point:thumbup1:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

From what ive read in Hama's other posts the guy seems to know what he's talking about, would be comfortable taking his advice on this one no problem!

 

so deni, looking at the various posts (sidetracks aside) how are you feeling about this now? out of curiosity:crazy:

[Riggerbear]

Its looking pretty safe to me fella, fusing well on the one side, more risk from a branch breakout IMO, take a little off the ends of the horizontal limbs and its safe as houses.

 

I'd have to agree with hama, maybe a light crown reduction around the top aswell. Would'nt bother bracing though.

Yes, trees do fail but there seems to be a growing trend over the last decade to fell anything that is not the perfect tree.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I'd have to agree with hama, maybe a light crown reduction around the top aswell. Would'nt bother bracing though.

Yes, trees do fail but there seems to be a growing trend over the last decade to fell anything that is not the perfect tree.

 

People as you say seem to think that its o.k to condemn a tree for the most minor of "imperfections" it really does cause me a lot of concern for the future.

 

Should we be considering removing the "decision making responsibility" away from the average arb and leaving THAT for more qualified people?

 

felling is after all considered all too often as a cover all ills it is the lazy mans option as far as I am concerend, lazy in thought and in action, even a little greed as the logs provide a second source of revenue.

 

Its going on all too often.

 

country wide conservation blanket, and have "felling notifications" see authorities alarm bells ringing.

[treequip]

People as you say seem to think that its o.k to condemn a tree for the most minor of "imperfections" it really does cause me a lot of concern for the future.

 

Should we be considering removing the "decision making responsibility" away from the average arb and leaving THAT for more qualified people?

 

felling is after all considered all too often as a cover all ills it is the lazy mans option as far as I am concerend, lazy in thought and in action, even a little greed as the logs provide a second source of revenue.

 

Its going on all too often.

 

country wide conservation blanket, and have "felling notifications" see authorities alarm bells ringing.

 

 

The decision making function (largely) resides with the owner of the tree rather than the contactor who provides advice, there is the danger that the criteria they apply will have an element of “next Tuesdays job” but it was ever thus so I think your concerns for the future can be addressed by examining the situation as it stands.

 

 

I don’t see things getting dramatically worse, if anything they ought to improve. There are now many colleges turning out educated individuals and current thinking is freely available on the internet and in publications so we ought to be breeding in a better educated arborists rather than the old school, “I don’t like the look of that darling”. I don’t mean any disrespect to anyone old school, I started in the old school.