Self employed rates?

[scottythepinetree]

The best groundsmen are also climbers IMO. And both should be working together as a team. I can't stand climbers who pile up branches and slow the whole job. In the same way that I can't stand groundsmen who stand scratching their heads, open mouthed when you signal for something that should be obvious, over the noise of the chipper. A climber will know what you need before you ask for it.

 

It's also good if a groundsman can eye a piece you are about to drop to confirm what you think. ie. that you are safe to miss that fence/shed etc. Info I would trust more from a climber. Helps you go bigger and makes less work for you. A groundsman that's only worth 50 quid a day, I wouldn't even want on site.

 

I whole-heartedly agree with the people who think we vastly under-pay ourselves in general as an industry.

[tractorboy1]

I have a climbing goundie which i pay well and another to chip brash £15 a day

 

Your son still working for you Bob?

[David Goss]

The best groundsmen are also climbers IMO. And both should be working together as a team. I can't stand climbers who pile up branches and slow the whole job. In the same way that I can't stand groundsmen who stand scratching their heads, open mouthed when you signal for something that should be obvious, over the noise of the chipper. A climber will know what you need before you ask for it.

 

It's also good if a groundsman can eye a piece you are about to drop to confirm what you think. ie. that you are safe to miss that fence/shed etc. Info I would trust more from a climber. Helps you go bigger and makes less work for you. A groundsman that's only worth 50 quid a day, I wouldn't even want on site.

 

I whole-heartedly agree with the people who think we vastly under-pay ourselves in general as an industry.

 

Amen to that

[sean1212]

im a groundie and charge £85 a day but for that i drag and chip all brash keep the customer happy sharpen saws make sure everything is to hand i also stumpgrind and fell trees i have tickets cs 30 31 38 39 mewp polepruner stumgrinder and a few others i do the odd bit of climbing when who ever im working for gives me a charnce witch i love but to be honest i think there are far to many climbers that think they are better than they i think on some jobs the groundie should be paid as much a climber

[gibbon]

Climbers have more skill but groundless work harder

[Mark Bolam]

Some climbers have more skill but some groundless work harder

 

Fixed that for you mate.

[gibbon]

Thanks. I knew I didn't say it quiet right

[scottythepinetree]

Climbers have more skill but groundless work harder

 

That depends on the job. If you have a clear drop zone and can belt away, plus a long drag to the chipper then yes, the groundy will be working harder. If it's a tricky drop zone on an ivy covered brute of a tree with the chipper right beside the brash then the climber will sweat the most.

[gibbon]

That depends on the job. If you have a clear drop zone and can belt away, plus a long drag to the chipper then yes, the groundy will be working harder. If it's a tricky drop zone on an ivy covered brute of a tree with the chipper right beside the brash then the climber will sweat the most.

 

well I would stay at home and send a couple of the lads off for that job.

[scotspine1]

To be honest when someone gets me in to climb its cause they cant do it there selves

 

 

And there-in lies the main problem of the UK arb industry, subby climbers doing work for employers who can't do it themselves.

 

Remember these employers are making a name for themselves on the back of your expertise and skills.

 

for employers - If you can't climb trees and do the work yourself then don't take the job on.