Stupid question

[Matthew Arnold]

We always carry a line with us even if we are doing tree work or not. You never now if you have a quick emergency job to do before you get on site.

[big fell!]

it obviously didnt have the lean that you first though it did, or it was very windy.

re-calibrate your brain with the new info and keep going. If it was tall then this has a lot of leverage, sometimes what your eyes see and your brain computes is diferent.

As for stuck saw, in this situation you have to NOT make the mistake and prep the fell diferently. If you whacked in some wedges on the bore cuts you would pop the hinge and tree goes over your shoulder.

When working on thin tall trees there is very little room for bar, wedges, hinge and gob. Simply stick in a pull line on every fell from now on until you are more experienced.

 

Stephen is right, soak it all up, remember everything you did today and use it next time you come to a similar situation. Felling, in my opinion is 20% knowledge and 80% experience. The more you do the better you get. As for using dog tooth cuts... i think they do have a place in tree felling but knowing when to implement them is the key thing. I reckon ive felled 3/4 trees with dog tooths in 12 years.

[Brushcutter]

We always carry a line with us even if we are doing tree work or not. You never now if you have a quick emergency job to do before you get on site.

 

I have a old climbing line in the truck for exactly the same thing.

[APC]

There is nothing wrong with what you did today, what you did was be human.

Life is 10% of what happens to you, 90% how you react to it. I bet this incident was about 5 minutes of your life today, dont beat yourself up. Calling yourself stupid and thick is you telling me you dont think much of yourself.

To me you come across as a young lad who has got the common sense to ask a question but at some point you have been called names for doing this, probably at school by the folk that saw you as a threat because they themselves were very insecure. This needs to stop now. Say to yourself, i can, i will.

You have explained what yo did perfectly, all i did was remember back to when i did this last, it was last year, felling 80 foot Thuja about 14" wide, 3 in a row i messed up, they sat back, i got another saw, felled them where they wanted to go, i was in a wood so it didnt matter about damage. I have been felling for 16 years, if i hadnt done that that day i could of messed up some where else and couldnt give you this advice.

chin up and charge on:thumbup:

 

Why thank you! I've recently turned 30, so certainly no spring chicken!

 

I don't generally beat myself up over things, and the whole asking questions things, I'm just one of those people who ask questions all the time. Reason I was bit sketchy about asking this though was that I have removed pinched saws several times before but cannot for the life of me remember how I did it and on a site full of pro's, it probably seems a little novice. Might bother my boss for CS32 if we can scrape any money from anywhere.

[Stephen Blair]

Hinge is key at all times. You can pull and push, nibble round the bar with another saw etc but only if the hinge is strong.

[big fell!]

Why thank you! I've recently turned 30, so certainly no spring chicken!

 

I don't generally beat myself up over things, and the whole asking questions things, I'm just one of those people who ask questions all the time. Reason I was bit sketchy about asking this though was that I have removed pinched saws several times before but cannot for the life of me remember how I did it and on a site full of pro's, it probably seems a little novice. Might bother my boss for CS32 if we can scrape any money from anywhere.[/quote

 

We all gotta learn... Cs32 is a decent ticket, lots of double bar length cutting, very purist. I did it 5 years after starting in the industry and it does show you a different way of going about things.

As for asking questions, Thats what Arbtalk is for! Its a good social application but i think it is a brilliant educational and learning tool! ASK AWAY MATE!

[twmarriott]

i'm a perfectionist, and as my wife says i'm the hardest person on myself, as i always want a perfect job, theres nothing wrong with some self apprasial, and generally every job i do gets a post mortem, but beating yourself up too much is bad.

whats put in previous posts is very good advise. NO ONE should ever chastise any one for asking questions, however daft, you have to lear some how, a mistake is only bad if you don't learn from it and keep making the same ones.

[peckerwoo]

Forgive me but can this be another example of why if I have the slightest doubt I use a Split Level then no sitting back can occur after the wedge/cant hooks placed in before the final angle cut to release.?

Or am I being obtuse???

[josharb87]

Forgive me but can this be another example of why if I have the slightest doubt I use a Split Level then no sitting back can occur after the wedge/cant hooks placed in before the final angle cut to release.?

Or am I being obtuse???

 

I think APC thought the tree was a heavy leaner in the direction of fell, and because of the species, decided on a dogs tooth to minimise the risk of a barbers chair:001_smile:

 

A "pusher" is good in these misjudged situations

[WeeDee]

Hi APC, you reckon your day was a bit of a failure, eh?

 

I beg to differ.

 

You found yourself in a situation and made sensible choices to resolve it. You will be able to gain from this situation without having to pay for it in any damage to yourself, others or property. Even now, you're turning it into a learning session with the advice everyone's offering. And you've shown that you have the maturity to admit to a 'mistake' and find that most of us have beaten you to that mistake and will probably do it again in the future!

I wouldn't call that a bad day!

 

On the point of judging the lean - I find myself often felling on sloping or banked ground and can't always get a reliable 'eye' on vertical-ness.

So I hang my knife from a piece of string (a plumb line) and then I can see what's leaning and by how much.

 

Good luck, Dee.