Have you ever bottled it?

[High Scale]

woodpicker, what happened to Read & Co? I used to work for them up in North Wales. I know they were bought out by Asplundh and that I believe Asplundh pulled the plug but can you shed any more light?

 

I worked for them for a while.

[Taupotreeman]

There were some dodgy doings going on with them before I left then they just disapperaed. Curiosity is now getting the better of me.

[High Scale]

There were some dodgy doings going on with them before I left then they just disapperaed. Curiosity is now getting the better of me.

 

Well I don't know any details although I knew Dennis and did a little work for the company Tower Forestry when He moved on to them.

[skyhuck]

Well I don't know any details although I knew Dennis and did a little work for the company Tower Forestry when He moved on to them.

 

:sneaky2:Thats another firm that went bust, owing £1000s, but never really stopped trading:thumbdown:

[gibbon]

I have had branches tear out on me numerous times and for the record I'm 11stone. Mostly during branch walks but I've lost my anchor piont before. Once my anchor snapped out it was the same situation but at 15 feet. Yeah the branch took my weight, but when I snapped a step to chuck the branch out the extra weight of the branch snapped my anchor. The height isn't just something to mess with your mind. At 10,15 even 25feet you might think " OK chances are this will be ok, but the worse that will happen is that I'll take a tumble and be sore for a bit. Taking that chance at 100feet is different.

 

I'd also like to ask the guys who say they'd do it, how may Northofagus have you climbed? are you even familiar with the species? Brittle trees full of included unions and prone to branch failures. Yeah this limb has taken some winds but I climbed past tons of old wounds on the way up so plenty of others hadn't coped.

 

Its true that the vast majority of tree surgeons are macho nutters high on testosterone with egos as big as they think their balls are. But infact the best climbers I know have been quiet, modest guys not the chainsaw heros. I've climbed for 11 years but I can bet that I have more experience with large tricky jobs than many guys who've been at it twice as long. I've also never met anyone who has climbed larger trees than I've been lucky enough too. Up untill this job I'd re-thunk a few but never bailed, on this occaison I'd say the risk to the climber was far from acceptable so why do it?

 

Some comments on here have beed daft and some food for thought. Saying some one is a great climber and quanitying it by saying they cut themselve twice is daft. How does chopping yourself up make you good? Skyhuck says he almost never riggs to reduce risk. We almost always rigg for the same reason. I think rigging involves less cuts often means better positioning and gets the job done safer. Not saying he's wrong at all. Maybe for us with the gear and staff I have rigging is safer. Maybe others with a slightly different set up chose a different approach.

 

I believe some people have never bottled it, it must be true because plenty have died trying. I don't feel like I've anything to prove, but perhaps this thread might be a good place to post some pictures of you not bottling it and show us what you can do.

[Lorry thompson]

stephen ur the one thats neads to do les talky talky u seam to have a opinon (normaly a mixed a stupid one) on every thing.......

 

Stephen is a good bloke mate take the time to get to know his way of thinking and get to know him as a person and you will understand him:001_smile:

 

He wouldn't be having a go there just so many people talk the talk but don't show any pics of anything substantial. He'll be the first to give encouragement or give positive comments:thumbup:

[Lorry thompson]

Gibbon I agree with the best I've seen being quiet about it, I believe in letting your work doing the talking. It's the same as down the pub you get all the mouthy people shouting on about fighting all the time then every now and again the quiet one in the corner chins them haha a few well known hard men round my area are the nicest people you will meet because they have nothing to prove.

[skyhuck]

I believe some people have never bottled it, it must be true because plenty have died trying.

 

 

Have you any examples of this?

 

I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested.

 

I've read loads post accident reports and all the ones I've read were down to climber error, cutting their line, felling out the top with their line still up attached to it, etc, I can't recall one where the tree failed.

 

PS, none of us can truly say if we would have carried on with your tree, as we were not there. We can only try to honestly answer the question you asked.

[High Scale]

My friend had a Ash tree fail on him, it was on Duchey land and the consultant had marked the tree down for a heavy reduction, the three people on site all thought that the tree should not be climbed, my friend however did climb the tree, put in the front cut and as soon as the saw touched the tree for the back cut the whole top, about sixty five feet of it, failed and dropped vertically straight down inches from him, the only thing that saved him was the fact that he wasn't stropped around the trunk but around a small protruding stob.

[carlos]

great and intresting thread.

much better to read a thread where a skilled and experienced climber used his knowledge and intuition than one where he pushed too far and hit the deck.

ive very much still got the L plates on with climbing, mainly due to just not getting to do many large trees, so enjoy watching vids photos of people like gibbon, reg etc working ..inspiring.

carl.

p.s i think the comment about s blairs posts mainly being stupid is far from the truth!!! each to their own opinnion tho.