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Reg without quoting your entire message, I couldn't agree anymore with your comments in post #40.

Well said.

 

Proper risk assessments which in turn justifies safe solutions to complex problems, is what rule book makers should be concerning themselves with.

Too often the focus seems to be on doing things only by methods in the rule book.

 

You appear to be a smooth and methodical problem solver, an admirable attribute for a climber.

 

Congratulations and great work to yourself and crew.

 

Regards

Angus

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Thanks Martyn, Angus. I thought this thread was dead and buried long ago.

 

When I first read about Paolo’s idea of using screw-eyes for rigging: http://www.treemettlenexus.com/article7.html, I totally ridiculed it. However, once I’d properly visualized the set of circumstances he’d described I soon realized and was quick to concede that he was in fact right, and I wrong. The only real worry I had was the drop….but by creating a step for a crotch and then eliminating the need for a drill by using narrower diameter bolts that would just screw right in, it suddenly seemed just that little bit more practical.

 

Apparently the whole set-up looked totally dodgy from the ground….consider the wide angled lens on the video has a way of squashing everything into view, so you don’t get an accurate perception of size. Steve’s (company owner) concerns were the same as Old Monkey and MB – that I could be ripped down the trunk if such heavy sections were to fall the wrong way across my flipline. As it was they didn’t, because I was in total control, because I’m not a chancer!

 

But Martyn, IMO it really is a last resort mate, that and quartering. Thanks

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that was inspiring and beautifully simple. i like the lag hooks, but for when you were rigging off slices(off the other stem) i would have personally drilled a wide bore hole a quarter of the way in vertically through the slice. pushed it off the trunk to expose the hole then poked a sling through it and connected the rigging line. easier for the groundsman, and less fiddiling. also conceivable off itself but more awkward

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i like the lag hooks, but for when you were rigging off slices(off the other stem) i would have personally drilled a wide bore hole a quarter of the way in vertically through the slice. pushed it off the trunk to expose the hole then poked a sling through it and connected the rigging line. easier for the groundsman, and less fiddiling. also conceivable off itself but more awkward

 

 

I was just building my confidence in the hooks, in preparation for the main trunk, seriously!

 

For some reason I thought you were based in Australia. Am I wrong?

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that was inspiring and beautifully simple. i like the lag hooks, but for when you were rigging off slices(off the other stem) i would have personally drilled a wide bore hole a quarter of the way in vertically through the slice. pushed it off the trunk to expose the hole then poked a sling through it and connected the rigging line. easier for the groundsman, and less fiddiling. also conceivable off itself but more awkward

 

I had wondered about that, but I Ash splits so easily.

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I had wondered about that, but I Ash splits so easily.

 

if your too shallow you have a risk of splitting the wood, but i'd imagine the same risks are present with lag hooks. never shock loaded with that style. used to do it on mountain ashes for speedlining large rings that were too small for a knot to be tied round. i'd have to try at lag hooks to really be in a position to compare the two. reg looked pretty quick with his set up. i just hate fiddiling with little things up a tree.

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Very interesting! Do the screws you used have to be rated to be legally allowed in rigging? couldn't you have just tied a block to the side and ran ur rigging line thru that instead of over the top of the spur?

 

Thanks for sharing - a half hour well spent mate!

 

Ed

 

So not to appear rude, Thanks Ed....

 

but this thread is tired mate,

 

and I'm sure your questions have already been answered,

 

I'll pm you if not

 

Cheers

 

Reg

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