Is kindling worth the effort

[firewood]

One would hope it is better money than logs however from posts on here and what i have heard thru the trade (in grampian region) it seems it is on a par or worse.

 

there seem to be more and more suppliers selling 60x45 cm nets for around the £1 mark wholesale. I guestimate that you can get about 85 to 90 bags of kindling out of 2.5m3 of split logs = £90 at best. I can achieve £90 to £120 selling 2.5m3 of split logs (softwood) without the additional costs of nets and bagging up.

 

I know that, retail, kindling could fetch £3 to £4.50 per bag but if you need to make a kindling machine pay for itself you must also be selling wholesale.

 

So, has kindling had it's day?

[Johny Walker]

i think thers more folk doing it ,so its keeping prices down ,same with logs ,so many doing it that too is keeping prices down wether ther 1,st clas logs or fresh felled ,just an obersvation

[firewoodman]

One would hope it is better money than logs however from posts on here and what i have heard thru the trade (in grampian region) it seems it is on a par or worse.

 

depends on your area

 

there seem to be more and more suppliers selling 60x45 cm nets for around the £1 mark wholesale. I guestimate that you can get about 85 to 90 bags of kindling out of 2.5m3 of split logs = £90 at best. I can achieve £90 to £120 selling 2.5m3 of split logs (softwood) without the additional costs of nets and bagging up.

 

I know that, retail, kindling could fetch £3 to £4.50 per bag but if you need to make a kindling machine pay for itself you must also be selling wholesale.

 

i buy it in off a producer as its easier for me, once owned a machine, but could not make it work in the city, too many supermarkets and diy chains to compete with

 

So, has kindling had it's day

no i dont think it has

[D.M.Taylor Firewood Supp]

£2.00 net wholesale over here logs everybody and your ants doing them quality counts

[Chris Gagen]

just got some pics of my set up. the carpenters saw is there for scale...

timber is all pine, all reject timber from window manufacturer, but always clean and fine cut. 6" length the large bag is 6kg and the small 3kg

 

i'm doubling my money on what i pay for this pine (after accounting for labour and machine costs). wholesaling large bag £2.80 and the small £1.60. farm shops and hardware shops not complained at prices...

[delabodge]

nice tidy small kindling, looks good,,love to see that machine working,,,,lol

[Chris Gagen]

nice tidy small kindling, looks good,,love to see that machine working,,,,lol

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20yzDDdLKqM]YouTube - Kindling machine[/ame]

 

you now have just 2 wishes remaining...

[skyhuck]

 

you now have just 2 wishes remaining...

 

 

How much time do you spend doing that??

[gensetsteve]

I have worked out at a £1 a bag you earn nothing.

£1.25 a bag you earn £6 an hr

£1.50 a bag £12 pr hr

£2.00 £20

£3.30 £30 pr hr

 

And thats not allowing for depreciation or interest on loan to buy machine or breakdowns. Its worth doing but it needs some sort of fair trade idea. Also people selling kindling for a £1 a bag need to stop and think. As you say we may as well sell our machine and buy it in.

It takes me 1hr to prep timber through our wood processor which makes 130 bags. It takes 1 hr to cut logs which sell for £160 so why bother kindling and bagging for £130

[bjam1964]

Does that machine have H & S approval