Richard Dawkins- discuss

[alex_m]

before it's closed i want to see a response from matt re: giles hill discrediting his believe in the flood fossil.....

[skyhuck]

I for one am really enjoying this thread, there are some very good thought provoking post.

 

If we can all stay polite and alloyed offending with personal comments it will hopeful get chance to run its natural coarse.

[skyhuck]

God you would have to be greater than that which is created. Thus the highest has to be God and so on... So, God is not made. So I suppose yes that says "he's just always been there".

 

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OK, so god has no creator and was not designed.

 

So a creationist cannot argue that the world is too complex and wonderful to have no creator or designer, as by their own admission they believe that an even more wonderful and complex thing had no designer.

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

Human mind can't fathom it! I guess some inc. me are comfortable with that and others aren't. My particular head only has a small hard-drive, I'd had enough information overload by the time I left school!

[LancsMike]

This thread has been a constant source of amusement for me! Shame to see it go soon. There have been some great points made too. Liking your point of view LancsMike.. Summed up my thoughts better than I could ever put it.

 

Thanks mate, I appreciate it just putting forward an alternate take on stuff

 

OK, so god has no creator and was not designed.

 

So a creationist cannot argue that the world is too complex and wonderful to have no creator or designer, as by their own admission they believe that an even more wonderful and complex thing had no designer.

 

Good post Skyhuck mate, it highlights the use of logic which I was trying to get accross in earlier posts

 

@ Timber - I'm not saying you are wrong or that your belief is not noble which it is, more that Christianity has a tendency as shown with History to corrupt its belief structure when its applicable for those higher up in the Hierarchy of the Church.

 

However I'm glad you're seeing other points of view in this thread which is what the aim is and why were all enjoying a good discussion because we all might learn a bit about each other and some information from each other too.

[Mesterh]

Looks like there was a bit of divine intervention from he on high who with his big cosmic key unlocked the thread.

 

Lets all keep it sensible eh or there could be a bit of smiting!

[LancsMike]

Looks like there was a bit of divine intervention from he on high who with his big cosmic key unlocked the thread.

 

Lets all keep it sensible eh or there could be a bit of smiting!

 

It's all going a bit Monty Python, Life of Brian or Holy Grail anyone ?

 

With this thread it made me think of a good couple of thought provoking Documentaries I watched online, I'll put them up here but they are quite long so would recommend sitting down with a cuppa tea/coffee and watching them.

 

I wouldn't take the videos as absolute fact either, let you guys decide for yourself.

 

Zeitgeist, The Movie - Remastered / Final Edition

 

And the followup

 

Zeitgeist: Addendum

[Amelanchier]

I think Tony even contributed to this thread's derailment...! How's that for double standards?

 

I'm glad we both get the chance to be amused by your statement. On the one hand you get to find your own jokes funny whilst I get to observe a hilariously poor attempt to raise your own social standing by displacing your authority issues. Everybody wins.

[chris cnc]

although this thread has deviated slightly from its original subject, i would like to see it continue. lets all try to play nice, we've already had some thought provoking responses so lets see if we can keep it going.

 

[chris cnc]

LancsMike- i too have watched the Zeitgeist documentaries, found them really interesting, if slightly "dubious". The 9/11 stuff in particular is a real eye- opener.