Contracting in a climber.

[Lorry thompson]

I think it works both ways depending on the job every job is different you can't say groundies work harder all the time I've climbed my heart out while watching lads stand round laughing and jokin but also cut bog pieces off and had to sit and watch the lads work like dogs cleaning up

[Rupe]

Yes you are right. We have done some leave on site work recently and the groundies have had it easy. But generally I think its harder, I ground occasionally and its hard work.

[combined tree services]

i think that if the climber is doing what he should be doing in the tree then the ground staff should not be getting bogged down with brash , if it happens on my jobs then i wanna know why , if its because the climber is being a fick then he is expected to get down and after a short break then he should much in with the grondies , however if the groundies have not goe their act together and have not got their side of the job sorted and are not working productivley then its tough luck on them . simples !!! this goes for employed climbers or subby climbers, and in my eyes the reason the climber has become a climber is because he/she has mastered doing the ground work and has earnt the right to progress to climbing

[testcricket01]

where ever i get brought into a job to climb, i see my self as part of the team i do what i have to do get job done, if that means dragging, chipping and rakeing etc. all good ive never left a job with guys still cleaning up the mess ive made. (apart from when i was employed then i went up the tree crashed it all down, they drive me another job while some other guys clear it all up, then follow onto the next 1 i got taken to.)

[dandkgroundcare]

regardless of what you are climber v groundie a job is a job all muck in and get it done IMO

[Andy Collins]

Selecting any climber/groundie is just like choosing the right tool for the job, Every person has certain attributes that make them better for certain jobs than others, and every person has faults too. But what really matters is that each person can gel into a good team to get a good job done, and this is what I look for when hiring a climber. He must be a competent climber (can do most tasks req'd) and he must be a team player.

[Rupe]

Three posts confirming that its a team effort. More evidence that you can't "sub contract" out the climbing aspect to a seperate insurance policy.

 

Sorry, I'll shut up now.

[bareroots]

Three posts confirming that its a team effort. More evidence that you can't "sub contract" out the climbing aspect to a seperate insurance policy.

 

Sorry, I'll shut up now.

 

ah interesting rupe. who's insurance is on the line in that situation or is it another one of those shady grey places?

[alex_m]

For me personally, when i come down towards the end of the day, i'll have a quick rest and drink, then get stuck in - that way we go home earlier, yes?

Surely no job would be so tiring, as to make you physically disabled? If a subby came in and stood around for ages after a climb i would put a rake in his hand.

[Rupe]

ah interesting rupe. who's insurance is on the line in that situation or is it another one of those shady grey places?

 

The person whos name is on the quote. Beit Mr ABC or XYZ trees Ltd.