Hamas big reduction/pruning thread!

[Frank]

Pissing against the wind mate, I know the feeling all too well.

like a warm but wet sensation in the trouser department????

[Mesterh]

Does a reduction reduce wind sail? Answer=yes

 

Does leaving a tree to grow naturally reduce wind sail? Answer=No.

 

Looks fairly straight forward to me.

[Frank]

Does a reduction reduce wind sail? Answer=yes

 

Does leaving a tree to grow naturally reduce wind sail? Answer=No.

 

Looks fairly straight forward to me.

 

Does a 30% thining / crown cleaning reduce wind sail?? Yes:thumbup1:

Does this leave the tree looking more natural? Yes:thumbup1:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Does a 30% thining / crown cleaning reduce wind sail?? Yes:thumbup1:

Does this leave the tree looking more natural? Yes:thumbup1:

 

done much reading on this have we? try lonsdale!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

My god, did i just get somehting right?????

 

Fact of the matter is, heavily reduced trees look rubbish, thinned and raised canopys look natural and untouched (if done properly). I only reduce trees for money, and I have NEVER recommended a reduction.

 

You have never recomended reduction?

 

I guess thats your call based on YOUR personal experiance and thats cool, but I really do suggest you you open your mind a little!

 

What use is a one trick pony afterall?

[Mesterh]

Does a 30% thining / crown cleaning reduce wind sail?? Yes:thumbup1:

Does this leave the tree looking more natural? Yes:thumbup1:

 

I must agree I do go for a thin rather than a reduction tbh

 

I shoulda also added to wind sail, scary tree height reduction and patio light increase pruning.

[Dean Lofthouse]

I am not arguing we shouldn't reduce trees....money is money

 

I am arguing the reasons for justifying it..

 

To say it is good for the tree is pure tripe with vinegar on.

 

I have carried out reductions to:

 

Clear buildings

 

Bring fruit trees back in to be able to harvest the fruit

 

Clear phone lines

 

Remove long leader to bring the tree back to a "cloud" shape

 

Reduce back to previous cuts where weak unions have formed

 

But most of all to please the customer

 

and very very rarely, for the benefit of the tree

[Mesterh]

I am not arguing we shouldn't reduce trees....money is money

 

I am arguing the reasons for justifying it..

 

To say it is good for the tree is pure tripe with vinegar on.

 

I have carried out reductions to:

 

Clear buildings

 

Bring fruit trees back in to be able to harvest the fruit

 

Clear phone lines

 

Remove long leader to bring the tree back to a "cloud" shape

 

Reduce back to previous cuts where weak unions have formed

 

But most of all to please the customer

 

and very very rarely, for the benefit of the tree

 

I hope Monkeyd isnt reading this, its his lifes work your dissing.

 

 

There isnt much that we do that is good for the tree but a reduction is better than a fell (although in some cases maybe not) and thats my argument for reducing a tree.

 

Lots of people want a smaller tree and as afar as I know a reduction is the only thing that will produce that.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I am not arguing we shouldn't reduce trees....money is money

 

I am arguing the reasons for justifying it..

 

To say it is good for the tree is pure tripe with vinegar on.

 

I have carried out reductions to:

 

Clear buildings

 

Bring fruit trees back in to be able to harvest the fruit

 

Clear phone lines

 

Remove long leader to bring the tree back to a "cloud" shape

 

Reduce back to previous cuts where weak unions have formed

 

But most of all to please the customer

 

and very very rarely, for the benefit of the tree

 

BUT, you have done it for the benifit of the tree, so reduction CAN be benificial to the tree!

 

LOL

 

I can give you dozens of justifications for reduction over thinning, none of them will make a jot of difference though.

 

At the end of the day markets are driven by demand, what the customer likes dictates the trend and in the urban world, inner city and into the fringe THIS is what gets you noticed, gets you work, and wether you think so or not, these skills are noticed by trade guys as well as potential clients, this kind of work is what poeple want and it is a perfectly acceptable and worthwhile excersise in tree managment, TREE MANAGMENT is what WE do after all!

[Dean Lofthouse]

I hope Monkeyd isnt reading this, its his lifes work your dissing.

 

 

There isnt much that we do that is good for the tree but a reduction is better than a fell (although in some cases maybe not) and thats my argument for reducing a tree.

 

Lots of people want a smaller tree and as afar as I know a reduction is the only thing that will produce that.

 

I totally agree, if a tree is going to be butchered it should be butchered correctly

 

But I never ever sell a reduction as good for the tree, I always make sure the customer knows it's only a temorary fix and that they are going to have to keep paying me to come back and re-reduce which next time will be slightly dearer because I will have a lot more to cut and take away