Rigging krab idea.

[Rich Rule]

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[Rich Rule]

15 minutes ago, AHPP said:

What’s the answer then, Rich? Why do rigging lines have bigger eyes?

See previous answer.

[AHPP]

Sorry. Missed that. So more rope to absorb shock. Is it just the amount in the eye itself or does longer/shorter in the eye transmit force through the bury somehow differently? And how sure are you it makes a big difference? There’s being broadly aware of the notion and then there’s, “Every splicing manual and other source of industry knowledge I’ve ever encountered has gone out of its way to say it.”

[Rich Rule]

I asked Nod a lot of years ago and that was the answer I got.

 

If the spice gets shock loaded there may be a small chance it disrupts the bury and throat of the splice.  At least with a bit more material in the eye, there will be a small amount of stretch before the bury takes the hit.

 

Don’t get me wrong, I used to prefer a tight splice to hold the krab in place but after a discussion with people far more knowledgable than I that is how it was explained.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Joe Newton]

11 hours ago, kram said:

The process is exactly the same for any eye size, large just uses slightly more rope.

 

 

 

Not true, different manufacturers use completely different techniques, varying from the traditional double braid splice, Tachyon's "splife" and previously used "slaice".

 

Cousin have their own patented double braid splice as do Courant.

 

Let's not get into the shitshow that is Marlow.

 

It's not a "one size fits all" technique.

[krummholz]

On 07/02/2026 at 07:59, Mick Dempsey said:

Rated at 900kg so not for mega stuff (neither is the rope of course).

 

 

Is that SWL, WLL or MBS?

[Mick Dempsey]

@krummholz

[kram]

34 minutes ago, Joe Newton said:

Not true, different manufacturers use completely different techniques, varying from the traditional double braid splice, Tachyon's "splife" and previously used "slaice".

 

Cousin have their own patented double braid splice as do Courant.

 

Let's not get into the shitshow that is Marlow.

 

It's not a "one size fits all" technique.

 

Out of context, we were not talking about the vast number of splicing techniques or thin zigzag insertable eyes.

 

Changing the eye length does not change the process, only the length of rope marked. You dont use a different process for a tight biner eye or a 10" eye.

 

 

[kram]

51 minutes ago, Rich Rule said:

I asked Nod a lot of years ago and that was the answer I got.

 

If the spice gets shock loaded there may be a small chance it disrupts the bury and throat of the splice.  At least with a bit more material in the eye, there will be a small amount of stretch before the bury takes the hit.

 

Don’t get me wrong, I used to prefer a tight splice to hold the krab in place but after a discussion with people far more knowledgable than I that is how it was explained.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If this is a real thing it will have been tested, the manufacturers will have data to back it up. It is odd that there is no mention of it in splicing documentation that I can find. I would like to know, so I'll get some emails sent. I imagine the difference will be small and only notable with extreme shock loading.

 

A downside of a large splice, users will try to girth hitch with the eye, thats not going to pull equally on both sides of the splice.

 

 

 

[Joe Newton]

55 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

@krummholz

Should have an MBS (from new) of around 45kn.

 

Any other markings on it, Mick?