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23 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

You get the one thing that just works by having lots of things trying to be the best.

Competition breeds innovation.

 

Yes. Broadly agree. But. Loads of stuff has been put on the market, the creators knowing full well that it doesn't really push the envelope. They don't want to top the market. They just want a slice of it, within existing paradigms. Which is fine. Sell what you want. It's just annoying as a consumer to have so many options.

Example: Rope wrenches. The OG was fine. Puts the kink in, adjustable kink, midline attachable. What does a Chicane, Freexion or Apex do beyond that?

 

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11 minutes ago, AHPP said:

 

Yes. Broadly agree. But. Loads of stuff has been put on the market, the creators knowing full well that it doesn't really push the envelope. They don't want to top the market. They just want a slice of it, within existing paradigms. Which is fine. Sell what you want. It's just annoying as a consumer to have so many options.

What a bizarre thought process! 

 

They don’t want a slice of it, they want the lions share, to be the big dog, to dethrone the Zigzag, to be a game changer.

 

The best rises to the top, partly through word of mouth, partly through social media.

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11 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

What a bizarre thought process! 

 

They don’t want a slice of it, they want the lions share, to be the big dog, to dethrone the Zigzag, to be a game changer.

 

The best rises to the top, partly through word of mouth, partly through social media.

 

I see your point. I am being a bit communist about it aren't I.

 

Edited my earlier post with an example btw. 

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19 hours ago, Lewistree said:

Detachable swivel so you can run it straight through your bridge is a great idea

Apart from the single point of wear, you will get. A stainless swivel bit would be a good upgrade, assuming its alluminium atm.

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Looks interesting.

 

If it's more cost effective than a blackbird might look into it.

 

Current (still) considering the SJ3 to replace the ZZ but if this isn't years out, maybie

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Dribs and drabs more video and people saying they’ve tried it at TCIA have been getting to Facebook. One video does show it working tolerably on SRT without a wrench but a lot of the videos are suspiciously cut just before loading it fully. If it does work, why on earth the first thing on the internet about it wasn’t a video of a 200kg bloke saying, “I weigh 200kg and the ISC Reflex works on SRT without a wrench.” and then descending on it, I don’t know. 

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2 hours ago, AHPP said:

Dribs and drabs more video and people saying they’ve tried it at TCIA have been getting to Facebook. One video does show it working tolerably on SRT without a wrench but a lot of the videos are suspiciously cut just before loading it fully. If it does work, why on earth the first thing on the internet about it wasn’t a video of a 200kg bloke saying, “I weigh 200kg and the ISC Reflex works on SRT without a wrench.” and then descending on it, I don’t know. 

I'd imagine because worth a 200kg load the device would work much better with additional friction, but a 70-80kg climber would be fine without. 

 

Almost like they've thought about it.

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