Learning rigging

[AHPP]

Use your arbsurplus lengths for deadeyes, ring deadeyes etc. Before you know it, you'll have a good arsenal.

[kram]

I'm not planning to splice them for rigging, if that was your meaning.

 

17 hours ago, AHPP said:

If you work by yourself, you're going to have to learn some natural crotch (and other up-tree friction tricks). You should learn it anyway. It's a key skill. The rope for natural crotch is 3 strand. Get some of that first.

Working by myself is not the plan but learning is always good.

I can see a lot of advantage to having the friction in the tree, it will reduce the 2:1 advantage that would otherwise double the force on the anchor.

 

3 strand is not listed in many arb shops, I can only see it here. What do you use?

 

Marlow 3 Strand Lowering Rope 16mm - Radmore & Tucker

WWW.RADMORETUCKER.CO.UK

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Lightweight, cost effective 3 strand lowering lines manufactured from staple spun polypropylene.  The hairy feel of the rope improves grip and abrasion...

 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by kram

[AHPP]

I've got some rings knotted on double braid. Is it as strong or as neat as a splice? No but I can tie knots and see they're still there. And the price was right. I can't splice double braid. Or rather I never have.

Also have some spliced onto three strand, which I can splice and was happy to because you can see the strands holding.

 

By yourself or not, rigging from the tree is mega useful. Sometimes the groundsman is useless, sometimes he's gone to chip up or shoot up. Sometimes you'll want to drift a piece onto the main system, or catch a butt. Or even sometimes you can run another down on a crotch before they've untied the last one on the main system. Or or or.

 

The friction up top thing is less about protecting a weak rigging point (you can do that better by triangulating with predirects™ and redirects) and more about spreading it about being just nice. Reg Coates has a video on youtube explaining why he likes rings. The fact you can drop the rope and it won't zip up to the top of the tree is a good start.

 

I use the 16mm Marlow in your link. There's nothing illegal about running it through pulleys and rings too. It might trouble Joe and his catalogue model mates though.

[Joe Newton]

16 minutes ago, AHPP said:

 It might trouble Joe and his catalogue model mates though.

Have a Snickers, Dave. You're not you when you're hungry.

 

I'm simply advising learning the industry best practice first to get the fundamentals right.

 

You're not naive enough to believe I've gone my whole career by the book. I'm a freelance climber first and foremost.

 

The problem with dogmatic people like the OP is that they'll simply pick the advice that suits their opinion. Everyone does to some extent. 

[AHPP]

I meant in a Dempsey strap kind of way.

[Joe Newton]

19 minutes ago, AHPP said:

I meant in a Dempsey strap kind of way.

You can aspire to better than that. 

[AHPP]

 

[Mark Bolam]