NPTC/LANTRA assessment failures

[Mark Bolam]

5th, before you lose your shit, further training/assessment is never wasted time or money.

You always learn stuff.

Getting good people like Terry Banyard or Minty out on a decent sized job is still very much on the radar.

[Mark J]

On my CS38 I clipped my strop onto my hoodie, not the D rings as I thought. Launched the mainline a bit higher, clipped back in then noticed. The assessor didn't see it. 

[5thelement]

1 hour ago, Joe Newton said:

The problem is, training and assessing is a business for these people. Arb companies want to pay their money and get a ticket. A training provider with a lower pass rate will struggle for work.

 

Same with assessors. If they're too tough and look for a reason to fail candidates, the training provider will just use a different more amenable assessor in future.

 

Not saying it's right, but it's definitely a huge factor. 

I know of a few assessors that are rarely booked by certain colleges/training providers because they regularly fail candidates, not because they are c*nts, but because they are thorough, do the job right and make the right call. 
I use these guys to assess my candidates whenever I am back in the UK because of this, the candidates always know they have performed well and earned their stripes. 

[5thelement]

30 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

5th, before you lose your shit, further training/assessment is never wasted time or money.

You always learn stuff.

Getting good people like Terry Banyard or Minty out on a decent sized job is still very much on the radar.

This is the main problem that I hear about. 
People need to do their homework and not just rock up at the nearest college/training providers because of locality, due diligence is required to get the right Instructors that are right for your requirements. 
If you have been in the game twenty years, your probably not going to learn anything on a refresher day at the local college, where the instructor is last years star student with little to zero industry experience.

[Mark Bolam]

On my 38 training I had literally never climbed a tree on rope and harness before.

I’d climbed telecomms towers for years, but this was totally different.

Day 2 and I’m 40’ up an oak, climbing on both ends of a 45m rope having to tie a bowline or fig 8 every time I moved.

 

The instructor, nice guy, talked me through every step. I was clueless.

Suddenly, he pointed out I was completely unattached, his bad.

FFS!

That was at Plumpton.

[5thelement]

10 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

On my 38 training I had literally never climbed a tree on rope and harness before.

I’d climbed telecomms towers for years, but this was totally different.

Day 2 and I’m 40’ up an oak, climbing on both ends of a 45m rope having to tie a bowline or fig 8 every time I moved.

 

The instructor, nice guy, talked me through every step. I was clueless.

Suddenly, he pointed out I was completely unattached, his bad.

FFS!

That was at Plumpton.

Plumpton, who was Instructing you then?

[Mark Bolam]

I honestly can’t remember his name, it was decades ago.

I’ll check my paper files and see if I can find a name.

It wasn’t the living legend Pardoe!

 

He drove a little jeep thing from memory?

 

It wasn’t you was it?!!!