Large Sycamore possible damage?

[tree-fancier123]

2 hours ago, AHPP said:

Also inconsequentially to this thread, I changed the name of it to client psychology thread. Partially to get a rise out of Jules but mainly because it’s the right word. You sell goods to customers and services to clients. 

This is why banks have customer services departments - to confuse their clients

[Tree monkey 1682]

9 minutes ago, AHPP said:

 

No no no, you flip-flopper. Back a page you said it was goosed without equivocation. Then I was an idiot for not inspecting it in person. And now you appear to have come round to my way of thinking and are first in line for a group hug.

 

Dig in. I'm the moron here. This is the internet.

I'd say it would have been doomed  not only due to it being close to the house but also I think most time the is root damage the poor tree doesn't stand a chance let alone some fk hard going at it with a stump grinder .

[Tree monkey 1682]

13 minutes ago, AHPP said:

 

No no no, you flip-flopper. Back a page you said it was goosed without equivocation. Then I was an idiot for not inspecting it in person. And now you appear to have come round to my way of thinking and are first in line for a group hug.

 

Dig in. I'm the moron here. This is the internet.

None of my comments have called u an idiot 🙄 

[Dan Maynard]

2 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Well, yes and no. 
There are two schools of thought in this case. 
1: It’s  certainly doomed

2: It could be ok. 

Not sure if this is 3rd school of thought or just a subset of 2...

 

2(b). Could be ok - but in the chance that it does fail and land on someone (city street near school is high footfall), and owner has ignored the huge tree defect, then maybe held negligent. Failure reasonably foreseeable.

 

None of us have even seen the top of the tree, but given the location if pushed to give an internet answer I'd suggest either fell it, or pollard to a height that makes falling over very unlikely.  It's a sycamore so bashing the top off isn't going to hold it back, even if you take it down to ground level you'll have a multi stem sycamore tree in a few years time.

 

You could suggest it's on the boundary and difficult to prove ownership and maybe the neighbour would go halves, but a couple of solicitors letters and you'd have been better off just getting the work done. Not a difficult tree to do, park chipper right by it.

[steve78]

The photos might be a little misleading, but they did go down pretty deep. 

 

The tree is 100% mine, there are a few sycamores on the street, pretty much every 2 houses, but originally every house had one in the corner of the garden.

 

I don't know enough about tree care etc, but I'm siding with having it removed, at the contractors cost! 

 

Only because of the conflicting advise, think it might be best to side with worst case scenario, even though there's a chance it could be fine 

 

Im selling the house in the next couple of months, so a potential buyer may also have difficulty getting a mortgage approved if their surveyor looks at the tree roots! 

 

Thanks for the all the advise, I'll keep update on what happens 

 

 

[kram]

That changes things, if your selling!

 

Surveyor is unlikely to look at the roots as they will be well hidden, under dirt, in the neighbours garden!

Edited 23 hours ago by kram

[Mesterh]

I would suggest getting a report done. You have identified a potential issue with the tree that does have targets. 

A long time ago we did quite a bit of tree work for a client spanning several years. Over that time we noticed that the row of sycs he had in the front garden where gradually declining in health, crown die back, poor growth more deadwood each year etc. They werent big say 30 feet ish but it turns out that a few years before we started working for him a contractor came along and dug up the path running along side the trees to lay cables/pipes he couldnt remember which or I cant remember tbh. It was quite clear that they had hacked through the root system hence the decline which took 4 maybe 5 years. We did remove a couple of the trees as they got to the point of being useless and costing more to maintain.

 

So all im saying is that it might take a bit of time before the root damage is reflected in the health of the tree. From the pics it looks to me that they have basically severed most of the roots along one side of the tree, if it was my tree in your situation I would get it taken out.

 

[Dan Maynard]

21 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

would suggest getting a report done.

Is it worth cost vs simple removal?

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, steve78 said:

I don't know enough about tree care etc, but I'm siding with having it removed, at the contractors cost! 

Good luck with that one, only the housing association have any contractual relationship with the contractor. It's debatable if you can claim any loss,   from tort, because you were not warned that the work was going to potentially damage your tree, but that would be with the HA (imo ianal).

[Mesterh]

29 minutes ago, Dan Maynard said:

Is it worth cost vs simple removal?

Youre right its probably not but it looks like he is going down the path of getting the contractors to pay for it. I doubt that will happen without a report.