Scag Zero turn mowers

[Kia]

10 hours ago, Muddy42 said:

 

To be fair you did ask "what sort of stuff will the flail cut through?".  Plus you said you had various tractors, a quad and flail and that you wanted less machines, without really specifying which ones you wanted to sell.  Don't be surprised if you get vague answers.

 

Personally I try to use the most HP, ride on and least manpower for the job.  Even if that means reversing into corners and into trees, its easier than a walk behind or a strimmer. Front tractor mounted flails are even better, although you get less warning of an obstacle, not that that matters much with a flail.

 

Why not hire a walk behind flail and see how much sweat pours when you walk it round a field?  I did this a few years ago, then bought a tow behind flail. Thanks

 

This my original post:

I am about to purchase either a Scag zero turn walk behind rotary mower or flail..

Has anyone used either? I would like too know more about the flail type, as I am presently using a quad, and towing a Logic flail mower.. it seem senseless having two engines running..

what sort of stuff will the flail cut through? 

[doobin]

11 hours ago, Kia said:

This my original post:

 

I am about to purchase either a Scag zero turn walk behind rotary mower or flail..

Has anyone used either? I would like too know more about the flail type, as I am presently using a quad, and towing a Logic flail mower.. it seem senseless having two engines running..

what sort of stuff will the flail cut through? 

Get over youself mate.

 

Bugger off and spunk your 7k on a new walk behind flail to do a piss poor job of mowing a 4ft strip (why???) around your hobby hay field.

 

If it's senseless to have two engines running, it's even more senseless to spend 7k to burn double the fuel cost of a trqactor you already have to cut a quarter of the speed with more effort.

 

You're clearly not Einstein, but surely even you can work out that a pedestrian flail with 15 or whatever hp is going to be about the same as a Logic flail with the same.....

 

I've owned and used both machines you ask about and both are shite compared to even a basic compact tractor and topper.

[Stere]

AS MOTORS 940 XL SHERPA RIDE ON BRUSH CUTTER | eBay UK

WWW.EBAY.CO.UK

---

MARCHES MACHINERY LTD AS MOTORS 940 XL SHERPA RIDE ON BRUSH CUTTER 4 WHEEL DRIVE £15800 NEW 2021 275...

 

 

 

[AHPP]

Are those stand on zero turn mowers particularly good for anything? Besides looking relatively fun and being easy to get on and off. 
 

At what sort of cut width or machine horsepower does it make sense to go to a single diesel engine (i.e. a tractor)? Because on smaller things, separate engines appeal. My little skidsteer wouldn’t run a mower off the hydraulics. Bigger (like Vermeer stand on) skidsteers aren’t amazing with the hydraulic flails either. So you’d want mowers with their own engines for those. Like a quad towing something with a Honda on top. For small things, I like the idea of two engines to be honest. They can both be set up to work in the proper rev range for either driving or implement powering, best drive trains for each application etc.

I suspect a lot comes down to transmission loss. But you’re not going to put a mechanical PTO on a quad bike are you. 

 

I’m currently working through a few problems on dad’s ride on to see if it is inherently crap or just in poor order. Hydrostatic drive and blades driven by a clutch onto the engine. Can’t tell if it’s underpowered or losing power in transmission. Tightened a belt last night. Resetting a wonky cushion bearing in a few minutes. Probably sharpen it. 
 

[Muddy42]

The big debate for me is flail versus rotary action.  Rotary seems to need less HP for a given width and the quality of cut is probably better if it mulches well, but its far more susceptible to damage when you hit things.

 

I have an old Bolens rotary mulching ride on mower that is great for orchards and rough lawns.  It is almost falling to bits, but easy to maintain.  I wouldn't dream of taking it round a field or bumpy ground.  That's flail territory.

 

The zero turn mowers are a bit better for getting near edges and round trees, but there is not much in it compared to a hydrostatic gears. 

[AHPP]

And since we're steadfastly refusing to help the OP, let's just talk about mowers and tractors. What are alpines good for besides looking cool? When would you want one over a conventional tractor and vice versa?

Edited Thursday at 22:09 by AHPP

[Deafhead]

10 hours ago, AHPP said:

And since we're steadfastly refusing to help the OP, let's just talk about mowers and tractors. What are alpines good for besides looking cool? When would you want one over a conventional tractor and vice versa?

When I am running sheep in the winter I cut a strip around the pastures for the electric fence with my faithful ford 39/10 and votex topper, this copes with the usual brambles and ever encroaching blackthorn. Bit wider than the op wants, but the principle is the same. Wonder what happened to the Bamford Bandit?

[Stere]

The clue is in the name alpine so designed for stability on slopes