Karabiners info required

[krummholz]

On 17/03/2025 at 21:58, peds said:

 

Ehh... I don't think those count.

I mean, 4kN, of course they're still "super good enough" for some things... but still...

 

OP didn't specify what they wanted to use it for

[5thelement]

On 17/03/2025 at 22:54, AHPP said:

Side topic. What are oval biners even for? I had to paint the opening ends of mine the other day after getting so annoyed trying to open the ****************ers.

Hitch climber?

[AHPP]

41 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

Hitch climber?

 
For having a hitch eye either side and not shifting the pull away from the spine of a different shaped biner. Yep. That makes sense. The reality is that it doesn’t matter but if it makes people happy, great. 

[Joe Newton]

On 17/03/2025 at 21:54, AHPP said:

Side topic. What are oval biners even for? I had to paint the opening ends of mine the other day after getting so annoyed trying to open the ****************ers.

They're designed for systems configured in a specific alignment, like hitch climbers or zigzags etc.

 

They orient better and keep the majority of the load along the spine of the carabiner.

[AHPP]

1 hour ago, Joe Newton said:

They... keep the majority of the load along the spine of the carabiner.

 

The opposite according to the ropelabs link a few posts up but I follow your point.

[Joe Newton]

1 hour ago, AHPP said:

 

The opposite according to the ropelabs link a few posts up but I follow your point.

I didn't read the link, but you might be right. On reflection the D shaped and pear shaped crabs position the load along the spine. The ovals are primarily for aligned orientation.

[Joe Newton]

I know you won't enjoy giving your hard earned to the Arb Association, Alex, but I think you'd enjoy reading the Technical Guides.

 

There's a lot of insight into industry best practice (you can pick and choose the bits you agree with) and I've found a few surprisingly pragmatic parts.

[AHPP]

I read them.