Anyone still like Labour?

[Steven P]

Yup, however many do not have drivers license, HSE card, firearms license (especially in the UK), passport - no requirement to hold any of these

[5thelement]

Throughout the war years until the end of rationing, all adults in the UK were issued ID cards.

These were used in conjunction with the ration books to prove the eligibility and the amount of goods per household. 
Last year I had to take great grandad Bill, who is 94, to the Nationwide Building Society to change his account. 
He was asked to provide proof of ID, as he has no passport, no driving licence or phot ID of any kind, he produced his wartime ID card and utility bills. 
We have had National  ID cards issued before so it is nothing new, linking it to the NHS entitlement would certainly reduce fraudulent use. 
I am not condoning letting people die in the street who haven’t got their card with them, we are not America, but access to consultation and future operations/treatment could easily be filtered out. 

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[GarethM]

19 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

Throughout the war years until the end of rationing, all adults in the UK were issued ID cards.

These were used in conjunction with the ration books to prove the eligibility and the amount of goods per household. 
Last year I had to take great grandad Bill, who is 94, to the Nationwide Building Society to change his account. 
He was asked to provide proof of ID, as he has no passport, no driving licence or phot ID of any kind, he produced his wartime ID card and utility bills. 
We have had National  ID cards issued before so it is nothing new, linking it to the NHS entitlement would certainly reduce fraudulent use. 
I am not condoning letting people die in the street who haven’t got their card with them, we are not America, but access to consultation and future operations/treatment could easily be filtered out. 

Remind me again of the three letter word, top of my tongue W_ _.

 

And there was conscription, still a thing BTW in a time of war.

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

Yup, however many do not have drivers license, HSE card, firearms license (especially in the UK), passport - no requirement to hold any of these

Well they’d struggle to get anything out of you blagger 🤷‍♂️well an honest answer for starters, that seems beyond you. Another day of ignoring outstanding questions from another thread, desperately trying to  get in on the debate. 

[Johnsond]

4 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Remind me again of the three letter word, top of my tongue W_ _.

 

And there was conscription, still a thing BTW in a time of war.

What a lame argument, what percentage of the population does not have one of the aforementioned ID’s 🤷‍♂️. I still have my army ID card 🤷‍♂️so bloody what. 

[Steven P]

Well, my mum does not have a firearms license if that counts?

 

30% do not have a drivers license

15% do not have a passport

99% do not have a firearms license.

 

Does that help?

[GarethM]

8 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

What a lame argument, what percentage of the population does not have one of the aforementioned ID’s 🤷‍♂️. I still have my army ID card 🤷‍♂️so bloody what. 

Bingo, it's the usual lefty arguments they'll reel out so you can prove x,y,x.

 

We had ID at a time of war for a reason, maybe Tony and SP with all these "undocumented" visitors have made them decide it is a time of war ?.

[5thelement]

46 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Remind me again of the three letter word, top of my tongue W_ _.

 

And there was conscription, still a thing BTW in a time of war.

The ID cards where still being issued well after the War ended, Great Grandad was a Miner so never conscripted. 

[GarethM]

4 minutes ago, 5thelement said:

The ID cards where still being issued well after the War ended, Great Grandad was a Miner so never conscripted. 

Because you had to prove you weren't a enemy or liable for conscription.

 

A lot of miners and sewer diggers were actually conscripted/volunteered in WW1 for special projects.

 

Plus, when did rationing end ?.

You'll be surprised and that's partly also why.

Edited June 10 by GarethM

[5thelement]

4 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Because you had to prove you weren't a enemy or liable for conscription.

 

A lot of miners and sewer diggers were actually conscripted/volunteered in WW1 for special projects.

 

Plus, when did rationing end ?.

You'll be surprised and that's partly also why.

He wasn’t alive in WW1 so that is irrelevant.
He was a Miner in WW2 and never conscripted.

Rationing ended 9 years after the WW2 ended, ID cards where still being issued and you still needed your ID card alongside your ration book to get your allowance.