Are we heading into WWIII?

[Mesterh]

Anywho. With today's new events I guess that we are going to see a fair bit more of an escalation in the middle East. 

[Haironyourchest]

I see auld Joe Biden is talking about banning U.S gas exports to the EU (and UK). To any country that doesn't have a free trade agreement with USA.

 

So that'll be fun, if it happens.

[donnk]

it would be a massive turkey shoot.

 

first 24 hours all the russian anti-air would be taken out giving free reign same as in the gulf.

 

Then follows a week of the systemic destruction of their entire infrastructure, factories, bridges, dams, power stations  etc etc.

 

If they were still mad enough to send infantry without air cover they it would be a massacre like the iraqi armoured column leaving kuwait in the gulf war.

 

Remember they are socialists so literally nothing works, for example all the tyres on the lorries were ****************ed as they never rotated them. All kit is old tech and crap. They are living of the ex-USSR era rocket specialists for missiles but they are finite and need western chips anyway. They havent got (neither have we) a single latest grade semiconductor factory for example.

 

We should only be worried about the bill for the massive amount of ordinance the military is going to be ordering from Kays catalogue on 52 weeks.

 

 

[Steve Bullman]

2 hours ago, donnk said:

it would be a massive turkey shoot.

 

first 24 hours all the russian anti-air would be taken out giving free reign same as in the gulf.

 

Then follows a week of the systemic destruction of their entire infrastructure, factories, bridges, dams, power stations  etc etc.

 

If they were still mad enough to send infantry without air cover they it would be a massacre like the iraqi armoured column leaving kuwait in the gulf war.

 

Remember they are socialists so literally nothing works, for example all the tyres on the lorries were ****************ed as they never rotated them. All kit is old tech and crap. They are living of the ex-USSR era rocket specialists for missiles but they are finite and need western chips anyway. They havent got (neither have we) a single latest grade semiconductor factory for example.

 

We should only be worried about the bill for the massive amount of ordinance the military is going to be ordering from Kays catalogue on 52 weeks.

 

 

Of course this is all assuming that we are only fighting Russia and no other large countries come to their aid

[Haironyourchest]

4 hours ago, donnk said:

it would be a massive turkey shoot.

 

first 24 hours all the russian anti-air would be taken out giving free reign same as in the gulf.

 

Then follows a week of the systemic destruction of their entire infrastructure, factories, bridges, dams, power stations  etc etc.

 

If they were still mad enough to send infantry without air cover they it would be a massacre like the iraqi armoured column leaving kuwait in the gulf war.

 

Remember they are socialists so literally nothing works, for example all the tyres on the lorries were ****************ed as they never rotated them. All kit is old tech and crap. They are living of the ex-USSR era rocket specialists for missiles but they are finite and need western chips anyway. They havent got (neither have we) a single latest grade semiconductor factory for example.

 

We should only be worried about the bill for the massive amount of ordinance the military is going to be ordering from Kays catalogue on 52 weeks.

 

 

 

China cracked the chip problem last year. Did you see the phone thing in the news? They can make chips as good as U.S and Taiwan now.

 

Who knows what the red lines really are in the halls of power, behind the guff? Europe has half a billion people and we need their oil, and the middle east's oil. We're still dependant on it. If we or they do something that turns off the tap for real, its game over for us.

 

 

 

Edited January 29 by Haironyourchest

[Paul Cleaver]

On 27/01/2024 at 20:53, Steve Bullman said:

I’d love to know what trumps master plan is for ending this in a day 

Cake

[donnk]

On 29/01/2024 at 12:07, Haironyourchest said:

 

China cracked the chip problem last year. Did you see the phone thing in the news? They can make chips as good as U.S and Taiwan now.

 

Who knows what the red lines really are in the halls of power, behind the guff? Europe has half a billion people and we need their oil, and the middle east's oil. We're still dependant on it. If we or they do something that turns off the tap for real, its game over for us.

 

 

 

 

they cant make any of the current gen chips in volume, neither can we mind.

 

Like the Russians they can do speak and spell chips no worries.

[Haironyourchest]

6 hours ago, donnk said:

 

they cant make any of the current gen chips in volume, neither can we mind.

 

Like the Russians they can do speak and spell chips no worries.

 

How long do you think it will take China to ramp up output? Rus still buying western chips via third parties anyway, like we're buying their oil. 

 

The double standard bothers me. Talking heads (inc Ursula) going on about washing machine components and conscription (incompatible narratives) yet behind the scenes the grown ups keep trading goods and commodities and us plebs are supposed to believe the propaganda and emote accordingly. Is the whole thing a big joke to them? 

 

 

 

 

[donnk]

unlikely china has the know how, its why they want taiwan so badly all the world use it for the most advanced chips.

 

UK should have invested years ago in semiconductors. They are starting now but best case it will take a minimum of 20 years just to catch up.

 

New £1 billion strategy for UK's semiconductor sector - GOV.UK

WWW.GOV.UK

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A new 20-year plan to secure the world-leading strengths of the UK’s semiconductor industry has today (Friday 19 May) been unveiled by the government.

 

 

[breffni]

On 29/01/2024 at 12:07, Haironyourchest said:

 

China cracked the chip problem last year. Did you see the phone thing in the news? They can make chips as good as U.S and Taiwan now.

 

Who knows what the red lines really are in the halls of power, behind the guff? Europe has half a billion people and we need their oil, and the middle east's oil. We're still dependant on it. If we or they do something that turns off the tap for real, its game over for us.

 

 

 

China haven't solved the chip problem. That was blown out of proportion. They don't have access to ASML's most up to date machines so can't produce the most advanced chips.