omarv ter 190 - cut & collect flail

[JLA1990]

Anyone had any experience? How good are they at collecting mixed grass/bramble etc and how robust are they?  

[doobin]

Not a brand I’m familiar with. What will you be running it behind?

 

Most flail collectors will do a decent job on light grass and relatively heavy brambles. Its thick scrub or thick rank grass that will test them. 

Edited December 30, 2023 by doobin

[Brushcutter]

I've only used the rytec one. Which is really really good the only thing I find is they fill up really really quickly. Rytech was high tip so you could tip in right into a trailer. 

 

I've mown long grass and light scrub with it..works well just don't smash up big stuff and they last quite well.

[JLA1990]

Yeah, my experience is with rytec and as you say their capacity lets them down. Omarv models carry quite more m3 but never seen them over here. I’ll be running them behind a Valtra t/n 174 or when required alpine tractor 

[Brushcutter]

32 minutes ago, JLA1990 said:

Yeah, my experience is with rytec and as you say their capacity lets them down. Omarv models carry quite more m3 but never seen them over here. I’ll be running them behind a Valtra t/n 174 or when required alpine tractor 

Be careful about putting a 190 odd hp through the mower. Normally the gearboxes can take it but the PTO shafts can't and then deform.  You really want a thick walled star shaft for putting that power through it. Don't use a lemon shaft rated for about 70hp or it will break 

[JLA1990]

I won’t pretend that I didn’t find this out the hard way! 

44 minutes ago, Brushcutter said:

Be careful about putting a 190 odd hp through the mower. Normally the gearboxes can take it but the PTO shafts can't and then deform.  You really want a thick walled star shaft for putting that power through it. Don't use a lemon shaft rated for about 70hp or it will break 

Primarily I’ll run it behind smaller tractors however we get asked to remove larger areas throughout the ecology season so a more comfortable machine/cab would be great. Pto will be beefed up regardless so thanks 

[Brushcutter]

54 minutes ago, JLA1990 said:

I won’t pretend that I didn’t find this out the hard way! 

Primarily I’ll run it behind smaller tractors however we get asked to remove larger areas throughout the ecology season so a more comfortable machine/cab would be great. Pto will be beefed up regardless so thanks 

Where as I knew it was theoretically possible I was surprised when i saw it the first time.  I actually went through my photos to try and find the torn lemon shaft but I couldn't. It wasn't a big hp disparity form tractor to shaft either. 

 

 

One thing that is worth considering is that if you can fit and handle a bigger machine as I'm going to guess a 190 is 1.9m wide. I know a 1,9m on a alpine is big but on a valtra isnt. 

 

I've always run mowers between 1.8 and 3.2m most conservation mowing I've done I've always kept it 2.3m.to 2,5m so it covers the back of the tractor.

 

[dumper]

Rather than a flail collector look at a forage wagon far more productive with a lot less trips to tip, 

[Conor Wright]

There's a Dutch brand called Schouten, they make an in between size flail collector, designed like a forage harvester but with a flail or scarifying head. Well put together machines, but you'd need to have work for it. They're not cheap to buy. 

Here's a picture because I don't think I explained it too well.

[Brushcutter]

4 minutes ago, Conor Wright said:

There's a Dutch brand called Schouten, they make an in between size flail collector, designed like a forage harvester but with a flail or scarifying head. Well put together machines, but you'd need to have work for it. They're not cheap to buy. 

Here's a picture because I don't think I explained it too well.

Trilo do a similar thing. They a massive one for mowing runways and airports. I've only seen the sucky for leaves on golf courses but Enfield council have one that mows as well.