SRT connecting two ropes for bigger trees

[carlos]

i still think a 60m rope is a hassle free all round option imo

[peds]

6 hours ago, carlos said:

i still think a 60m rope is a hassle free all round option imo

Yeah it can be less hassle, doesn't answer the question though, really. Sometimes I need 300m of rope length, I'm not going to drag 300m around, I'm tying together 3x100m.

[Carteeni]

Yeah I can see 60m being less hassle but if it was used for DRT and SRT then pulling 60m through would be slow, I climb mainly DRT and don’t do enough SRT yet to warrant a 60m, still learning SRT btw 

[arborlicious]

Another great bend for joining two ropes is called 'Shake Hands' - youtube 'shake hands rope'. Easy to untie after loading too unlike the overhand knot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mark Bolam]

On 16/01/2023 at 16:21, peds said:

Yeah it can be less hassle, doesn't answer the question though, really. Sometimes I need 300m of rope length, I'm not going to drag 300m around, I'm tying together 3x100m.

Yeah!

60m pussies!

I do 600m trees all the time.

 

300m, 300m down, right?

 

We should hook up bro!

[peds]

19 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

Yeah!

60m pussies!

I do 600m trees all the time.

 

300m, 300m down, right?

 

We should hook up bro!

Ropes can also be used in other environments. 

 

 

(Luckily, the helicopter carried us and our ropes up the hill on the day pictured above, but that's a rare luxury. Now, an individual can carry a single 300m rope up a hill, but it's far easier to split the weight with two friends and just do a hundred each.)

 

Edit to add... and on this day, the action was about 170m down, needing 2 independent rope systems of a pair of hundreds each, plus another 50 for the edge man, plus another 50 for tying the anchors together. 500m total of string used, with a few more bags lying around just in case.

Edited January 27, 2023 by peds

[Mark Bolam]

Peds, I was obviously taking the piss, but an overhand knot I’d tied?

I wouldn’t trust it to keep my loafers on!

[peds]

Yeah I knew you were really, but then you go and do this...

 

53 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

... an overhand knot ...

I wouldn’t trust it to keep my loafers on!

 

There's just this weird suspicion and historic opposition among various Anglo-American circles to the good old overhand, popular over on the continent for decades, which eventually brought about the charming alternative name of the European Death Knot. It's perplexing, because it's just demonstrably a better knot for the situation than any of the alternatives, unless you are joining two ropes of a significantly different diameter, in which case you might throw a pair of fishermen together. 

 

...and sometimes it's tricky to tell when people are still genuinely opposed to it, and not just leaning hard into the irony.

[Joe Newton]

31 minutes ago, peds said:

Yeah I knew you were really, but then you go and do this...

 

 

There's just this weird suspicion and historic opposition among various Anglo-American circles to the good old overhand, popular over on the continent for decades, which eventually brought about the charming alternative name of the European Death Knot. It's perplexing, because it's just demonstrably a better knot for the situation than any of the alternatives, unless you are joining two ropes of a significantly different diameter, in which case you might throw a pair of fishermen together. 

 

...and sometimes it's tricky to tell when people are still genuinely opposed to it, and not just leaning hard into the irony.

I just don't see the drawback to a double figure eight compared to a double overhand. It's definitely more secure. 

[peds]

To join two ropes? You mean a flemish bend or a flat figure 8? One of them is great, and one of them kills people, and explaining the difference between the two isn't worth the hassle when there's a better, quicker, and safer knot already available. You can tie a dozen EDKs before you've even rethreaded you second 8.