Speed Wrecking

[dadio]

Most suburban arbs pay to haul the wood.. the big straight timber on the west coast being an exception. In my marlet we are mostly taking down trees that have problems and are not even saw logs. When we do come by a few decent logs the trip to the mill is 600 or more so the loads are hardly worth hauling. And usually the guys that do the hauling want to get paid on both ends. 

 

Too many know it all comments by those that only see from their fixed and limited point of view (that's not directed at you)..

 

Old American saying you don't hear much anymore.

"there's more than one way to skin a cat".

[Dan Maynard]

13 hours ago, doobin said:

So pencil It down, don’t waste timber!

I've pondered this too, I think it is economics. The trees are taller, basal flare wider. Generally there are plenty of trees, the constraint is labour.

 

Say you have a stem 2 foot diameter at 2 foot from the ground, that will flare out by a foot each side. So your choice is cut a 2 foot diameter straight log with high stump, or cut through at 4 feet in diameter (4 times the area), plus cutting flares off, just to make another 2 foot length of timber.

 

Might as well take the two foot cut and do two trees in the time.

[Dan Maynard]

4 hours ago, dadio said:

Old American saying you don't hear much anymore.

"there's more than one way to skin a cat".

We say that over here too, so that's common ground.

 

I couldn't use a lot of your techniques because we don't have space, but it's good to talk about how and why we do things so that we don't just keep doing things the same way.

 

I also noticed in your video flush cutting, I watched a video from a guy the other day who carefully cut everything 9 inches out from the stem then took the stub off after. It's maybe a small efficiency gain but they all add up.

[scottythepinetree]

I think the guy berating Nate might be a lot more careless than we see in this video.

 

Clearly damaged climbing line. So he either doesn't check his gear before he climbs, or worse, he checked it and didn't see this as a problem.

Darwin Award in his future, I think.

[Joe Newton]

1 hour ago, scottythepinetree said:

I think the guy berating Nate might be a lot more careless than we see in this video.

 

Clearly damaged climbing line. So he either doesn't check his gear before he climbs, or worse, he checked it and didn't see this as a problem.

Darwin Award in his future, I think.

I think you're right. It's not the only controversial post of his. 

 

A while ago he posted a video of him trying to crane a large tree out. The first bit was him rabbiting on about how ISA certification was a waste of time for him as he was a "removal specialist"

 

A bit of arb knowledge might've helped him spot the obvious inclusion on a limb he'd slung up to pick.

 

He didn't spot it though and when the crane op picked the limb, half of it split out and went through the roof he was over 🤣

[dadio]

2 hours ago, scottythepinetree said:

Clearly damaged climbing line. So he either doesn't check his gear before he climbs, or worse, he checked it and didn't see this as a problem.

Darwin Award in his future, I think.

This is exactly what I mean by a bunch of pussies... you're criticizing him for using a nicked line when he put his body right into the only path the rope could go when the piece moved into the rigging then proceeded to pull the piece right into himself after using a snap cut and finishing with a hand saw, when he simply could have stood on the other side and made quick work of the cut. That was pure stupidity of a high order which is rarely seen or survived in this business, and you're talking about gear checks...  

[scottythepinetree]

19 minutes ago, dadio said:

This is exactly what I mean by a bunch of pussies... you're criticizing him for using a nicked line when he put his body right into the only path the rope could go when the piece moved into the rigging then proceeded to pull the piece right into himself after using a snap cut and finishing with a hand saw, when he simply could have stood on the other side and made quick work of the cut. That was pure stupidity of a high order which is rarely seen or survived in this business, and you're talking about gear checks...  

You think climbing on a nicked line is acceptable?

Which do you think is more dangerous, a slap of a branch or a climbing line failing? What if he shock loads the line (which lets face it, the guy seems really likely to do) through either a fall or getting tangled up  and dropping a branch onto it?

Also, I get that you feel attacked and are therefore verbally retaliating like a petulant child, but calling people pussies isn't going to get the response you seem to be looking for (from me at least). I've been around the block mate. Over 20 years in the business. Long enough to remember that video of yours knocking out the top of a large broadleaf  and watching it go completely arseways. Whatever happened to that video? Seems to have vanished. Know the one I'm talking about? Tied off too low on a crane and tipped over after it was cut (the head, not the crane). Would you say that was more stupid or less stupid that this video?

[Tommy_B]

 

1 hour ago, Joe Newton said:

I think you're right. It's not the only controversial post of his. 

 

A while ago he posted a video of him trying to crane a large tree out. The first bit was him rabbiting on about how ISA certification was a waste of time for him as he was a "removal specialist"

 

A bit of arb knowledge might've helped him spot the obvious inclusion on a limb he'd slung up to pick.

 

He didn't spot it though and when the crane op picked the limb, half of it split out and went through the roof he was over 🤣

Smoking Meth before you climb will do that I guess

[Tommy_B]

Reg, Graeme McMahone and Gerry Beranek are all at the top end of the tree video scale. There is no gung-ho machismo bullshit. They can and do get the job done. They make tree videos for tree cutters and that is apparent imo.

 

Any prolific video up loaders tend to veer towards making videos for the sake of making money or for adulation and that dilutes the pool for me. Reg's viewpoint, and he stated it himself in a video, was that he had filmed everything interesting so would stop making video unless it was something interesting. Maybe it's me, but I struggle to get excited watching someone take tiny tops or reduce a Conifer hedge when everything is mundane and the "presenter" is making out like it's the most technical or dangerous thing we've ever seen.

 

August and Billy Ray are undoubtedly talented, the videos are just a bit too "Over produced and for TV" for my delicate English taste. Same goes for any video with its own dedicated introduction.

[Joe Newton]

8 minutes ago, Tommy_B said:

 

Smoking Meth before you climb will do that I guess

Could've told me this morning.