Taxing tractor

[Tom D]

Even the council’s don’t tax their tractors as commercial. It would be Mobile plant if anything. 

[Justme]

43 minutes ago, woody paul said:

There is plenty of tractors used in none agricultural which are under 3500kg.

 

They might weigh under 3500kg but what are they plated to be?

Most can carry equipment on front and back & that potential weight is counted too.

Plus it will depend what you call a tractor too.

You can get "garden" tractors lol.

[Justme]

50 minutes ago, swinny said:

Just waiting for them to let me do my wagon licence  in my tractor and trailer then ey 😉

Just because you need the licence to drive it does not mean its acceptable to take a test in.

 

You need C to drive an artic unit with no trailer but you cant take one to test.

[Justme]

21 minutes ago, swinny said:

Yup bloody loads of tractors under that weight

Take a MF 165 2wd for instance,

kerb 2275-2650kg
rear load limit 1630kg (mine would never lift much that lol)
front load limit I cant find one but it can pick up a bale of silage with a rear weight fitted.
Total 3905kg to 4280kg plus what ever the front load is allowed to be.

Thats not a big tractor by any standards.

 

Yes 135's & fergies ect will be under.

Most of those are now in collectors hands I would guess.

 

Remember licence go on maximum legal wright limits not what it actually weighs.

 

Hardly the tractor we are talking about.

 

[woody paul]

34 minutes ago, Tom D said:

Even the council’s don’t tax their tractors as commercial. It would be Mobile plant if anything. 

Would be interesting to find out if anyone on here knows. 

What I can't understand is when it's taxed agri you can drive it at 16 but if taxed anything else you may need different licence or even mot. 

 

[Justme]

15 minutes ago, woody paul said:

Would be interesting to find out if anyone on here knows. 

What I can't understand is when it's taxed agri you can drive it at 16 but if taxed anything else you may need different licence or even mot. 

 

Not completely correct.

 

How its tax does not define which licence you need.

The use at the time does.

You could be tax as an agri tractor but doing construction or haulage & as well as the wrong licence you ahve the wrong tax too.

To drive at 16 on the road they must have passed the test or be driving too / from a test. Not allowed to practice on road prior to test. Also restricted on tractor & trailer size / weights too.

[Justme]

To be fully legal on the road, your 16-year old can only drive the following:

• A tractor with a width of less than 2.45m. Most tractors of more than 150hp and/or built in the past 20 years are likely to be wider than that.
• A trailer that has a maximum width of 2.45m (See above). That includes the extra width taken up by those fancy tailgate rams.
• A trailer that has close-coupled tandem axles where the centres of the axles are less than 0.845m apart. Most are considerably greater than that and 1.4m on a 16t grain trailer is not unusual.

“The rule of thumb is that if the tractor is big and shiny your 16-year-old won’t be legal to drive it. If it is small and old then you are probably OK,” says PC Bryant.

[woody paul]

I was hoping to get some answers on here how others work it, as a lot of people on here use tractors, not to be stumped by more long winded answers. Which I have read on other threads and gov Web sites. 

[spuddog0507]

4 hours ago, Justme said:

You wont get many tractors with a mam under 3500kg. But yes if under 3500kg then a BE licence to tow over 3500 but under 7500kg with a gtw under 12000kg a c1e. If vehicle over 7500kg or gtw over 12000kg then CE which is where most tractors will be.

 

Licence cat F = 31tonne max combined weight of tractor and trailer with load but the trailer and load cant be any more than 18,290kgs, so where does BE and CE licence come in to it ? every one gets Cat F on there licence when they pass a standard car test,

[Peasgood]

51 minutes ago, woody paul said:

I was hoping to get some answers on here how others work it, as a lot of people on here use tractors, not to be stumped by more long winded answers. Which I have read on other threads and gov Web sites. 

What on earth made you think that might happen?