£15/hour

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4 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

That’s bloody stupid. Who can possibly think that’s a good idea!

The Bean Counters? It always boils down to money, if they can save money doing this then they will. Cheap food, cheap fuel and cheap labour. 

 

I think Scottish, (or was it Norwegian Salmon?) that is/was shipped to China for processing then shipped back again ready for the shelves. 

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1 minute ago, muttley9050 said:

Crazy world. Could never figure that out.
I read somewhere a few years ago that we manufacture enough toilet roll to be self sufficient. We then export 50% of it and import it from somewhere else.

I seem to remember that’s changed now and we are a net exporter. Last year the problem was getting it onto shelves not lack of it, very much like this fuel non crisis

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5 minutes ago, muttley9050 said:

1 hour ago, doobin said:

Muttley's setup sounds pretty cool. I've always thought that a big house split between a few families could provide a much better standard of living for less cost than the norm, so long as it wasn't too 'culty'. Economies of scale really kick in when you get into double digit bedroms! Sounds like there is ample room for personal enterprise too.
 
I've lived in house shares in the country and if you have the right people it's great. Perhaps there are not too many older people because they buy their own place with the money they save?
 
Muttley, are any of your members also renting their own houses out, or is that against the ethos?

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Yeah some do. I did for a few years but didn't like being a landlord so sold it.

May I ask for what reason? I also felt uncomfortable at being a 'Landlord' when I rented out an apartment below my house in Stavanger. The whole Landlord, renter and the deferral they have towards you felt uncomfortable. 

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8 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

The Bean Counters? It always boils down to money, if they can save money doing this then they will. Cheap food, cheap fuel and cheap labour. 

 

I think Scottish, (or was it Norwegian Salmon?) that is/was shipped to China for processing then shipped back again ready for the shelves. 

Still it’s stupid for the example you posted. It’s travelling half the world from one cheap labour economy to another and virtually back again.

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Just now, Richard 1234 said:

Still it’s stupid for the example you posted. It’s travelling half the world from one cheap labour economy to another and virtually back again.

Its only stupid if you dont understand the reasoning behind it. They do, we dont. They're in that line of business, we're not. They'll be saving money in doing it, its as simple as that.

 

In my main line of work we have Tools machined in Arbroath (Scotland) Then shipped to either Houston or Singapore for Assembly then back to either Scotland or Norway to be ran into the a new Well. Where every penny is scrutinized and accounted for this is still the cheaper option for the Company. 

 

We need lengths of Control line thats between 2000-6000m long that we need for each new Well. We used to get them for a very good supplier in Scotland, its now cheaper to get the Control line produced and shipped over from Brazil. These lines can be over 3t each. 

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May I ask for what reason? I also felt uncomfortable at being a 'Landlord' when I rented out an apartment below my house in Stavanger. The whole Landlord, renter and the deferral they have towards you felt uncomfortable. 

Similar reasons to yours in part. I don't like the hierarchy. Not wanting to be part of the housing problem in part. The fact that the mortgage was pretty high compared to the rental income and back then I was expecting a price crash and an interest rate hike(I was wrong). Id also renovated it to a very high standard whilst I lived there. Too good for rent really

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Just now, muttley9050 said:

44 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

May I ask for what reason? I also felt uncomfortable at being a 'Landlord' when I rented out an apartment below my house in Stavanger. The whole Landlord, renter and the deferral they have towards you felt uncomfortable. 

Similar reasons to yours in part. I don't like the hierarchy. Not wanting to be part of the housing problem in part. The fact that the mortgage was pretty high compared to the rental income and back then I was expecting a price crash and an interest rate hike(I was wrong). Id also renovated it to a very high standard whilst I lived there. Too good for rent really

Don’t you think that by selling the house to what is most likely a home owner and not renting it out you removed one house from the rental stock making the problem that wee bit worse? 

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31 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Its only stupid if you dont understand the reasoning behind it. They do, we dont. They're in that line of business, we're not. They'll be saving money in doing it, its as simple as that.

 

In my main line of work we have Tools machined in Arbroath (Scotland) Then shipped to either Houston or Singapore for Assembly then back to either Scotland or Norway to be ran into the a new Well. Where every penny is scrutinized and accounted for this is still the cheaper option for the Company. 

 

We need lengths of Control line thats between 2000-6000m long that we need for each new Well. We used to get them for a very good supplier in Scotland, its now cheaper to get the Control line produced and shipped over from Brazil. These lines can be over 3t each. 

I understand more for the specialised stuff that you use. But for chopped peaches or whatever they are I’m not so sure. It obviously is cheaper or they wouldn’t do it. It just seems outrageous that they do it.

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2 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

I understand more for the specialised stuff that you use. But for chopped peaches or whatever they are I’m not so sure. It obviously is cheaper or they wouldn’t do it. It just seems outrageous that they do it.

I agree that it’s outrageous. It’s a disgusting waste of resources. But that was the point I was making. 

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38 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

I understand more for the specialised stuff that you use. But for chopped peaches or whatever they are I’m not so sure. It obviously is cheaper or they wouldn’t do it. It just seems outrageous that they do it.

Crazy! All the transshipment and processing costs and it is still sold for pennies. 
 

Simply must be scale and slave labour.