Is milling hard on saws?

[Moose McAlpine]

3 minutes ago, Paddy1000111 said:

This is what I was saying a few posts back about the 500i vs the 661. Then again there's almost no difference between a 462 and a 500I bar a small upgrade. I would choose the 462 personally, same size bar rating but less weight. There's a big jump between the 661 and 881. In reality I need a saw that can handle big felling which would be the 661 but the 881 means milling so considering I'm not walking around forests doing felling it's no biggie having the additional weight. I'll just have to buy a 462 too, oh the horror  

 

As you said, big step between a 661 and 881. Even a 661 gets heavy fast. I bought my 3120 for milling but so far have only used it for ringing up and cutting stumps low. Weighs a ton, kills your arms, not as fun to use as i thought it would be.

 

1 minute ago, bigtreedon said:

500i is no novelty saw! Just curious what do you do for a living are you a full time chainsaw user or a arm chair specialist.

 

It just seems to bridge the 70-90cc gap, where it's not particularly "needed"*. Like anything there's a market for it and a use for it. If you've got the budget you can buy every saw in every cc range if you want to. I'm not minimal on having saws, i have 7. Just don't (personally) see that much need for a 500i if you're going to have a 661 which has more capability for another £10. (Yes, if you're not buying say a 461 then a 500i would fill that gap.)

 

*to me, anyway, my saws jump from 70cc to 90cc with nothing in between.

 

(No, I'm not quite a full-time user, i've been working in arb since Feb and looking to get trained/qualified in the new year, but i frequently use saws at work as a groundie.)

[bigtreedon]

I don't think a 500i is a gimmick but it just seems a little lost in the range? The 460 series is a tried and true series used by everyone from tree surgeons to the fire service. Given the 500i placement it doesn't make it sit well between the 661 and the 462. It just seems to fill a space that didn't need filling I guess? 
 
I wish I was an armchair specialist. My chair ain't got no arms! [emoji23]

I personally don't like any other present production stihl saws I love the 200t have more than 1 all modified no better top handle has ever been made but as a straight out the box saw no mods running a 25inch bar the 5001 takes some beating it feels much nicer in the had to me than the 4 series stihls but that's my personal opinion I have always preferred the ergonomics of husqvarna

[Paddy1000111]

5 minutes ago, bigtreedon said:

I personally don't like any other present production stihl saws I love the 200t have more than 1 all modified no better top handle has ever been made but as a straight out the box saw no mods running a 25inch bar the 5001 takes some beating it feels much nicer in the had to me than the 4 series stihls but that's my personal opinion I have always preferred the ergonomics of husqvarn

It's all personal opinion, it's why ford, volvo, VW, audi etc etc all produce cars in the exact same size range. None of them are "best" but just best to the person who's driving them! 

I've always liked stihl, there's just something about husky that doesn't sit right with me. Thing is if you had a mix between stihl and husky you could probably have the perfect 4/5 saw setup but I'm too stubborn for that  

[bigtreedon]

It's all personal opinion, it's why ford, volvo, VW, audi etc etc all produce cars in the exact same size range. None of them are "best" but just best to the person who's driving them! 
I've always liked stihl, there's just something about husky that doesn't sit right with me. Thing is if you had a mix between stihl and husky you could probably have the perfect 4/5 saw setup but I'm too stubborn for that [emoji6] 

4/5 would be great that number was surpassed many years ago my saw addiction took hold early [emoji15]

[Paddy1000111]

I only have 5 at the moment... I'm still a baby! 

[Moose McAlpine]

19 minutes ago, bigtreedon said:

Did you call it a novelty saw ? Are you a arm chair specialist

Never claimed to be a specialist, said i didn't see a need for it if it's between that and a 661 but need to do large felling. (36" bar territory.)

 

Yes, i think it's Stihl's novelty saw. First saw with fuel injection, very complicated and has mixed reliability and is terrible on fuel by all accounts. It's almost 661 money, 462 size and weight but 0.8bhp more powerful. 

 

You have one and love it, fair enough. It's not for me but i never said it's not for anyone else.

 

(When i bought my first saw i was actually looking at either the 500i and the 572XP. Lots of reading and watching reviews etc, ultimately chose the 572 on price, design, build quality and ergonomics and it turned out to be the right decision for me.)

[Paddy1000111]

I like how I came here for some hints on milling and how to not f a saw up and it's turned into the ultimate saw showdown 😂 I've turned Arbtalk into Project farm 😂

[Moose McAlpine]

14 minutes ago, Paddy1000111 said:

It's all personal opinion, it's why ford, volvo, VW, audi etc etc all produce cars in the exact same size range. None of them are "best" but just best to the person who's driving them! 

I've always liked stihl, there's just something about husky that doesn't sit right with me. Thing is if you had a mix between stihl and husky you could probably have the perfect 4/5 saw setup but I'm too stubborn for that  

 

Exactly, personal preference. I'm sure lots of other people see no need for a 320bhp bi-turbo diesel estate but mine works for me. Saws are no different.

 

I'm the opposite with saws. Huskys are just right for me. Much prefer their design and ergonomics. I like the combined choke/off switch that you push down with your thumb to kill, not push up like Stihl. (But will say the old style kill switches are a bit crap.) Better air filtration, more solid build quality. Don't like Stihl's "panel gap" in their design, crap pre-filtration but they have the edge in most saws having inboard clutches. Find many Stihls have a really jerky starter feel but that might be just me?

 

8 minutes ago, Paddy1000111 said:

I only have 5 at the moment... I'm still a baby! 

 

7 work saws and 1 display saw. I can not be trusted with money.

[Khriss]

37 minutes ago, Paddy1000111 said:

I don't think a 500i is a gimmick but it just seems a little lost in the range? The 460 series is a tried and true series used by everyone from tree surgeons to the fire service. Given the 500i placement it doesn't make it sit well between the 661 and the 462. It just seems to fill a space that didn't need filling I guess? 

 

I wish I was an armchair specialist. My chair ain't got no arms! 😂

.... Its cos have an 'i' innnit. K

[Khriss]

6 minutes ago, Paddy1000111 said:

I like how I came here for some hints on milling and how to not f a saw up and it's turned into the ultimate saw showdown 😂 I've turned Arbtalk into Project farm 😂

Yr work is done   🙊 K