Big CC Chainsaws a thing of the past or will new models come out soon?

[Rough Hewn]

Cs1200 42" full comp 404 cutting dense hardwood
Running at the back is 084 30" full comp 404 because it wont pull 42"

Sorry mate, where’s the 3120? The 880 and 881 videos?
??????

[Moose McAlpine]

17 minutes ago, Robin Wood said:

Cs1200 vs 395xp dyno
Heres some bullshit and rub it on your face real good

 

You're comparing 94cc to 116cc. Of course it has more power than a 395. ?

7 hours ago, Robin Wood said:

12 hours ago, Moose McAlpine said:

 
1972 called and wants its outdated saw back.

You'll have different opinion if you've ran one, 880 and 3120 are turds stock for stock compared to this beast

 

I doubt it. I like AV, chain brakes, etc. Besides, i have a 3120 and we have an 880 at work. Neither are much fun to use and i can't see that Echo being better.

 

14 minutes ago, Robin Wood said:

Cs1200 42" full comp 404 cutting dense hardwood
Running at the back is 084 30" full comp 404 because it wont pull 42"

 

084 won't pull a 42" full comp.. ?

 

 

Since the 881 has come out can't see why anyone would buy anything else for a new big saw. Why go to the bother of importing an outdated saw with no parts availability here when you can get an 881 with full backup?

[Rough Hewn]

Ok, the only way to settle this is...

A SAW OFF!!!!

Where you based robin?
I’m in Halifax, but I get about.
Let’s meet up, I’ll arrange a massive log, a 3120, an 880 and an 881.
We can put an 84” bar on each and see what happens?
Saul [emoji106]

[Stubby]

9 hours ago, Robin Wood said:

Here's my parts saw 3120 on the pto side
Pop quiz
Who can tell me why it doesn't have a chain brake?

It was a disk cutter ? stone saw originally ? 

Edited November 26, 2020 by Stubby

[Robin Wood]

120cc vs 95cc great comparison [emoji1787][emoji106]

Im not comparing those, they're not it in the same league. Pay attention to the numbers, look where is the tq coming from on the echo. Tq and hp will always meet at 5252 rpm, often times on small 2 stroke engines they will be developed in later rpms and lost in high up rpms. 1200 develops tq way low in the rpm which gives it the lugging power for our hardwood.

Ms880 and 3120xp has 7.8nm max tq while 1200 has 9.5nm tq. However hp developed by 880 and 3120 are much higher due to the rpms they're spinning. 880 is 8.5hp range, 3120 should be close at 8.2hp and 1200 is at a mere 7hp. All saws are in stock form

Here's a dyno from a heavily ported 3120, not a fan of those. I'd pick 880 before 3120, been inside all these 3 saws and 3120 hasnt impressed me a single bit

[Robin Wood]

Sorry mate, where’s the 3120? The 880 and 881 videos?
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Im porting a 880 soon, I'll do a comparison video against 1200. 881? I believe its a strato model, not a fan of heavy piston spinning high rpms

[Rough Hewn]

Im porting a 880 soon, I'll do a comparison video against 1200. 881? I believe its a strato model, not a fan of heavy piston spinning high rpms

Robin, do you use the saws yourself?
Or are you in sales or a mechanic?
Interesting about the 1200’s torque.
How would you go about using that increase?
[emoji106]

[Stubby]

2 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

Robin, do you use the saws yourself?
Or are you in sales or a mechanic?
Interesting about the 1200’s torque.
How would you go about using that increase?

You can lean on the saw a bit more I would think .

[Robin Wood]

 
084 won't pull a 42" full comp.. [emoji23]
 
 
Since the 881 has come out can't see why anyone would buy anything else for a new big saw. Why go to the bother of importing an outdated saw with no parts availability here when you can get an 881 with full backup?

Wasnt technically comparing, wanted to show where the tq is coming from

Yeah im not a fan of big saws myself, my ported 395 is my favourite big saw. Pulls 404 like a freight train, dont mind swinging it all day long. 1200 has 6 point rubber mounts, feels alot comfier than 880. 3120 spring avs arent too bad, i like those

Yes in our hardwoods, only high tq saws will serve a purpose. 084 is my all time 2nd favourite saw, no rev limit or non adjustable carb BS. Good ol school speed and power, gotta mod it some day

It'll be interesting to see how the 881 fares in long run, im not a fan of strato tech. Hey its a choice, if you prefer new tech by all means go ahead

[Robin Wood]

Ok, the only way to settle this is...

A SAW OFF!!!!

Where you based robin?
I’m in Halifax, but I get about.
Let’s meet up, I’ll arrange a massive log, a 3120, an 880 and an 881.
We can put an 84” bar on each and see what happens?
Saul [emoji106]

Unfortunately im from malaysia
That'll be fun for sure! Im afraid we can only do comparison videos for now lol

In soft wood i believe 880/881 will have an edge, but long bars might slow em down to give 1200/1201 the edge. Will be interesting to find out

Here's a thrashed 3120, it has 6203 case bearings. Same as 395/288, while its competitors are using 6204 and proprietary bearings. Crank seal is on oil pump assy, if oil pump fails and the reubber seals goes bad. Oil will flow into crankcase and cause a mess or even worse seize it. I despise this design