One thing that's come out of this virus

[trigger_andy]

8 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

BS that hasn't happened.

You can't be as sloppy in your trade or you'd have been down the roaded.

250,000 people have died? Died where? And what of? The comment mentioned the NHS in the same context so Im assuming he's referring to the UK? 

 

Has the NHS collapsed? Nope, in fact the Nightingale Hospital has either shut down, or is about to be mothballed due to lack of demand. 

Edited May 16, 2020 by trigger_andy

[donnk]

1 minute ago, eggsarascal said:

The victims wouldn't go to court to give evidence, how do expect a guilty verdict in those circumstances?

those damn annoying victims. Other options were available, deportation of non UK/visa granted foreign nationals who the police wanted to charge for example.

 

Why werent the police and social services who let it go on with a blind eye jailed ? Didnt even get a slap on the wrist.

 

This is how the councils and officials of the left values white working class kids.

 

Imagine if it was brown kids abused on an industrial scale by a small section of society ? 

 

The buck stops with him and what did he get for his negligence a sodding  knighthood.

[trigger_andy]

1 minute ago, tree-fancier123 said:

you need and old computer and one of those covert bypass paywall fancy bear Russian spyware add ons for chrome. It's behind a paywall

Odd, I can read it in one tab back cant follow my own link to the article. It could be argued that it was Starmers department and his head should have rolled. But as no one on the left seems to be calling for that its one to keep in the back pocket for a later use.  

 

Anyway, the first few paragraphs read; 

 

The Crown Prosecution Service has apologised for failing to pursue allegations of child abuse against Jimmy Savile after details of Scotland Yard’s probe into the late BBC presenter revealed allegations of more than 200 crimes committed over six decades.

 

A review of the scandal released on Friday found that Savile could have been prosecuted in three-quarters of the cases but that police and prosecutors had treated alleged victims with an unjustified “degree of caution”. The failure to pursue the allegations has raised uncomfortable questions for some of Britain’s most trusted institutions. In addition to police and prosecutors, scrutiny has focused on the BBC, whose former director-general, George Entwistle, resigned in connection with the affair, and hospitals where some of the alleged offences took place.

Keir Starmer QC, the director of public prosecutions, accepted the conclusions of the review by Alison Levitt QC. It found that if police and prosecutors had taken a different approach – for example, telling complainants they were not the only people to make allegations against Savile – some cases could have been brought to court. But Ms Levitt found no evidence that the decisions not to prosecute were “consciously influenced by any improper motive”. Mr Starmer said the report should be seen as a “watershed moment” that needed a “robust response” from prosecutors.

[eggsarascal]

2 minutes ago, donnk said:

those damn annoying victims. Other options were available, deportation of non UK/visa granted foreign nationals who the police wanted to charge for example.

 

Why werent the police and social services who let it go on with a blind eye jailed ? Didnt even get a slap on the wrist.

 

This is how the councils and officials of the left values white working class kids.

 

Imagine if it was brown kids abused on an industrial scale by a small section of society ? 

 

The buck stops with him and what did he get for his negligence a sodding  knighthood.

I've not a clue how it was/is allowed to go on, but no witness', no DNA, no guilty verdict. Simple really.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, eggsarascal said:

I've not a clue how it was/is allowed to go on, but no witness', no DNA, no guilty verdict. Simple really.

Not so;

 

 

The Crown Prosecution Service has apologised for failing to pursue allegations of child abuse against Jimmy Savile after details of Scotland Yard’s probe into the late BBC presenter revealed allegations of more than 200 crimes committed over six decades.

 

A review of the scandal released on Friday found that Savile could have been prosecuted in three-quarters of the cases but that police and prosecutors had treated alleged victims with an unjustified “degree of caution”.

[tree-fancier123]

Just now, trigger_andy said:

250,000 people have died? Died where? And what of? The comment mentioned the NHS in the same context so Im assuming the's referring to the UK? 

 

Has the NHS collapsed? Nope, in fact the Nightingale Hospital has either shut down, or is about to be mothballed due to lack of demand. 

firstly - if you re-read my reply slowly you will see I only addressed his use English, not the claims of fake news

second - you must be game for extrapolating data - with all the measures in place to date there are ~34500 covid associated deaths in UK so far, 468 reported today, the daily death rate having peaked in April at around 1200/day (data.gov). Is 250k that far off with everyone rammed into the locals? Not to mention offices and schools.

[trigger_andy]

Just now, tree-fancier123 said:

firstly - if you re-read my reply slowly you will see I only addressed his use English, not the claims of fake news

second - you must be game for extrapolating data - with all the measures in place to date there are ~34500 covid associated deaths in UK so far, 468 reported today, the daily death rate having peaked in April at around 1200/day (data.gov). Is 250k that far off with everyone rammed into the locals? Not to mention offices and schools.

Re-read what you've just written, then think of the irony of calling out someone else's English.  

[trigger_andy]

2 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

34500 covid associated deaths in UK so far

 

2 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

Is 250k that far off

Yes.....

[donnk]

2 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

I've not a clue how it was/is allowed to go on, but no witness', no DNA, no guilty verdict. Simple really.

yep simple as you say those kids should just accept no justice. Have their childhood taken from them and the authorites write them off as they come from broken homes, care homes or live on the street.

 

I do not accept that evidence couldnt be got. Surely  of being told a gang of pakistanis was abusing kids could have just surveiled them ? watched the kids going in and out of take aways ? 

 

Too much trouble and people like you writing them off.

 

[tree-fancier123]

Just now, trigger_andy said:

Re-read what you've just written, then think of the irony of calling out someone else's English.  

I say it's at least slightly better than donnk's - like a brick wall that's on the piss only by 3 degrees off plumb, as opposed to 10