Ineos Grenadier

[breffni]

I'm a shortarse and I felt squeezed in a defender, wouldn't like to be tall!

The supertanker like turning circle was great!?

[Silverhooker]

The tinnitus after a 20 minute drive was also an added bonus. 

[Guest Gimlet]

Can't see the relevance to to the working man, or anyone who uses 4wd for real. Looks like a Knightsbridge Hummer.  

 

The corporate blurb says something about farmers, estate managers and ski instructors - and various other cliche-twat non-people. They may as well have a Volvo XC 90. They couldn't tell the difference and will never need it. 

 

When will someone make a genuine 4X4 van that works and costs twenty grand new max..? 

 

8 speed auto..... **************** off! The sort of chinless ****************wits this thing is aimed at could manage perfectly with a Toyota Aygo and Google.

Give us a car a sane person who works for a living would actually want to buy. 

[difflock]

It seems "they" are looking at a soon to be redundant MB factory in France, adjacent or near to the Saarland, I cannot but wonder that if they perhaps switched to buying MB engines/transmissions, that MB might adjust the selling price accordingly.

We could end up with another other "G" Wagen clone begod!

see linky;

Jim Ratcliffe's Ineos mulls making Land Rover rival in France

UK.FINANCE.YAHOO.COM

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Sir Jim Ratcliffe could ditch plans to build a new off-road vehicle in the UK after beginning talks over a factory in France. His company, Ineos Automotive, is in discussions with...

 

Edited July 8, 2020 by difflock

[GA Groundcare]

On 07/07/2020 at 01:36, Gimlet said:

 

8 speed auto..... **************** off! 

Exactly, price is everything on this to make it successful. Why add a 8 speed complicated expensive box if your target market is apparently farmers / workers? Isn't the idea of it that it can be repaired in the out back and beyond with minimal specific tools?

Edited July 8, 2020 by GA Groundcare

[difflock]

14 minutes ago, GA Groundcare said:

Exactly, price is everything on this to make it successful. Why add a 8 speed complicated expensive box if your target market is apparently farmers / workers? Isn't the idea of it that it can be repaired in the out back and beyond with minimal specific tools?

I prefer automatics, because for towing work, there is no clutch to abuse, clutch abuse by others that is.

But also even for someone as adept with a clutch as myself, a proper TQ Automatic is simply SO much better than a manual/clutch.

And it should be entirely possible to build an unburstable/unbrakeable TQ automatic, with suitable periodic filter/fluid changes every 50 thou miles or so.

I.e. stuff the "sealed for life" shite.

[GA Groundcare]

Towing with auto is a dream for sure. I had a D3 Commercial a few years ago and towing was effortless. I know i'm towing in the Defender Puma these days, it's like a work out.... But I also find it fun. It can be dangerous towing in a powerful smooth auto, the speeds you can be doing with 3T on the back without realising!  

 

It seems a bit backwards for them to bang on about being this cheap rugged 4x4, with beam axles, the answer to the true Defender owner blah blah blah yet only offer auto. For example a sheep farmer plodding around his livestock will want a 5/6 speed manual. He'll also stick with a jap pickup because of this?

 

The Ineos will make a good tow vehicle. But then so does the Disco and new Defender... 

 

I have my eye on the 6 cylinder Defender 90 Commercial. That'll be a great truck for hauling chippers about.  

Edited July 8, 2020 by GA Groundcare