what's up with swearing?

[Mick Dempsey]

For what?

[Rough Hewn]

For what?

Time and effort,
Never read animal farm Mick?
When the chains are in your head not on your wrists, you think you're free...

[Mick Dempsey]

Of course I read Animal Farm.

 

Tell me about the chains in my head please.

[the village idiot]

3 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

Time and effort

And attention.

 

Watch people in any public space on their phones.

 

It is making some people an awful lot of money and robbing us of our ability to connect properly with the real world.

[Rough Hewn]

Of course I read Animal Farm.
 
Tell me about the chains in my head please.

I'm rather ineloquent, but mr Chomsky explains it well. It's long because it's a big subject.
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[Mick Dempsey]

Then forget it.

[Rough Hewn]

Then forget it.

I'd be very interested in your take on it, you're a sharp tack.
[emoji106]

[Mick Dempsey]

Thank you.

 

Here’s my take on things.

 

My Dad, born in 27 in rural Ireland in very modest circumstances, ie no hot water in the house, no bathroom (toilet at the end of the garden in a shed)  His father died of cancer in 41, untreated because in those days you just died of it.

Not far off a Victorian life really, which was the same as many people in Western Europe at the time.

So by the end of his life in 2014 (after working as a tractor driver for 40 years) he lived in a centrally heated house with all the modern conveniences, superb health care (triple heart bypass giving him 14 extra years of happy retirement) drove a very decent car (VW polo)

Effectively living in a way a millionaire could only dream of in the year he was born.

Surely no generation has ever had such a huge leap in real living standards than my father’s

If that is living in chains then so be it.

 

We forget how far the average life has improved in less than a hundred years.

Edited March 15, 2019 by Mick Dempsey

[Rough Hewn]

Thank you.
 
Here’s my take on things.
 
My Dad, born in 27 in rural Ireland in very modest circumstances, ie no hot water in the house, no bathroom (toilet at the end of the garden in a shed)  His father died of cancer in 41, untreated because in those days you just died of it.
Not far off a Victorian life really, which was the same as many people in Western Europe at the time.
So by the end of his life in 2014 (after working as a tractor driver for 40 years) he lived in a centrally heated house with all the modern conveniences, superb health care (triple heart bypass giving him 14 extra years of happy retirement) drove a very decent car (VW polo)
Effectively living in a way a millionaire could only dream of in the year he was born.
Surely no generation has ever had such a huge leap in real living standards than my father’s
If that is living in chains then so be it.
 
We forget how far the average life has improved in less than a hundred years.

That's an interesting point, I absolutely agree the conditions we live in have changed dramatically for the better during the 20th century.

In the recording, Noam talks about how industrial towns were designed and filled, from the earliest part of the industrial "revolution" and how that model was refined over centuries.
It's more interesting than an hour and a half of Hollywood
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[Ratman]

That's an interesting point, I absolutely agree the conditions we live in have changed dramatically for the better during the 20th century.

In the recording, Noam talks about how industrial towns were designed and filled, from the earliest part of the industrial "revolution" and how that model was refined over centuries.
It's more interesting than an hour and a half of Hollywood
[emoji106]

Hollywood! Could think of nothing worse!