How long is too long for mill trailer

[openspaceman]

6 hours ago, Justme said:

Not just implements. Trailers too if the max weights are OK.

I may have missed some posts in the thread as I have been away and was responding from my cellphone.

 

AFAICS any agricultural trailer over 750kgs must have brakes.

 

The exception is for an Agricultural Trailed Appliance  which did not require brakes or suspension if they weighed less than 1420kgs, did not exceed 20mph and did not carry a load. If more than one axle then compensation (like a pivoting bogey) is required to keep all wheels on the road.

 

Now some C&U regs may have been changed to allow for the increase in speed for ordinary tractors from 20mph to 25mph, I cannot see that atm.

 

I'd be interested to see where you can see other trailers over 750kg behind a tractor can be unbraked.

[Justme]

13 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

I may have missed some posts in the thread as I have been away and was responding from my cellphone.

 

AFAICS any agricultural trailer over 750kgs must have brakes.

 

The exception is for an Agricultural Trailed Appliance  which did not require brakes or suspension if they weighed less than 1420kgs, did not exceed 20mph and did not carry a load. If more than one axle then compensation (like a pivoting bogey) is required to keep all wheels on the road.

 

Now some C&U regs may have been changed to allow for the increase in speed for ordinary tractors from 20mph to 25mph, I cannot see that atm.

 

I'd be interested to see where you can see other trailers over 750kg behind a tractor can be unbraked.

Its an old regulation for tractors like grey Ferguson's mf135's etc. That were never designed for towing. If I remember right the max trailer weigh had to be less than 50% of the tractors weight and it had a max weight too of sub again if I remember right 3000kg.

Re the tractor speed increase I din't see any changes re tractor trailers.

[Justme]

 

[openspaceman]

10 hours ago, Justme said:

 

I had a quick read and that only seems to apply to trailers built prior to 1940s and less than 4 tonnes, even then it looks like speed is below 10mph.  I don't think it's relevant in this case.

Edited December 14, 2018 by openspaceman

[LeeGray]

I think best thing for most would be buy the manufacturers trailer. I’ll be building one, longer and with brakes so it’ll be over 750kg but I’ll be running it as trailed implement  unable to be broken down any smaller. 

I wont be going for type approval and I’ll let you know how I get on with that in the future.

[Justme]

Never said it was relevant.

 

Just said it was possible.

 

[Justme]

1 hour ago, LeeGray said:

I think best thing for most would be buy the manufacturers trailer. I’ll be building one, longer and with brakes so it’ll be over 750kg but I’ll be running it as trailed implement  unable to be broken down any smaller. 

I wont be going for type approval and I’ll let you know how I get on with that in the future.

Your going to build a trailer and not get it tested. There goes your insurance.

[LeeGray]

10 minutes ago, Justme said:

Your going to build a trailer and not get it tested. There goes your insurance.

No I’m building a trailed implement. Woodland mills sell these in the uk and people are running them legally as has been said on here. They have no type approval.

[trigger_andy]

20 minutes ago, LeeGray said:

No I’m building a trailed implement. Woodland mills sell these in the uk and people are running them legally as has been said on here. They have no type approval.

 

20 minutes ago, LeeGray said:

No I’m building a trailed implement. Woodland mills sell these in the uk and people are running them legally as has been said on here. They have no type approval.

So does Norwood. Logosol make one for the B1001 and the B751 one will come next year. But they stipulate they may not be road legal in your country as they sell them internationally. They sell them as off-road use but can be used on the highway. 

[Justme]

56 minutes ago, LeeGray said:

No I’m building a trailed implement. Woodland mills sell these in the uk and people are running them legally as has been said on here. They have no type approval.

I checked this re firewood processors and them being "plant". They don't come under that exemption. I think but need to check but trailed implement is an agri exemption so would not apply.