My splicing attempts

[Samuel]

Rob that is very clever what you have done there

[Peter]

With the DB, if your measurements are correct, then with a bit of work you should be able to bury it fully. Work all the slack in the cover down toward the splice, and then massage/beat the throat of the splice until its in. You may find the crossover has slipped out of place while you are burying, in which case you need to work it back out, redo it and start burying again.

 

Also, the taper on the splice on the left looks a bit abrupt, could do with tapering off a bit more smoothly.

 

Other than that, good work.

 

Wire fid for 16 strand for sure.

[RobRainford]

Looks like I'll be investing in some tools from treeworker. What about that splicing wand? Bit expensive mind!

 

@sjb I thought that I may aswell make a nice easy big accessible gear loop. Thinking about buying some more small biners and putting them on for floating attachment points.

 

@Peter. I'll have a go tomorrow. I'd been battling with the 16 strand for about 3 hours and had done a splice before that. So after about 5 hours of splicing my hands had lost all dexterity!

 

Here's a pic to show where I got stuck on 16 strand. Spot the fid poking out! I can't get it out. Might pull it all and try again with a wire one when I get some.

[Peter]

Wand is useful for DB, I dont actually use a fid at all for DB splices.

 

With 16 strand it is important that you dont catch any cover fibres when inserting the fid. Just a few strands will make it near impossible to get the bury through.

[RobRainford]

I don't know of I've caught any. I think it's just because it's a tube fid and it's quite tightly woven so there's almost no room to squeeze the fid down. I just want to get it out so I can try again with a wire fid. I'm gutted as I had my head around what to do aswell!

[John Shutler]

my first 16strand splice was a nightmare, i ended up with many blisters and very sore hands. slow down, think about what your doing, what the ropes doing and what you want the rope to do. think about trying to create space within the rope, this can all be achieved by milking and masageing the rope

 

im very much a novice when it comes to all this splicing malarky but have found that its not as hard as it seems or you would think

[Jamie]

Rob,

 

I'll use samsons directions to explain.

 

from your picture it looks like you've tried to insert the fid at mark 'D', try inserting it at mark 'C' then pulling the taper through. then move onto pulling it through from mark C to mark D

 

i sometimes taper the last few inches of teh taper a bit more to get it started.

 

anchor your fid onto somethingheavy (like a car or a strong fence) and use the anchor to maintain tension on the fid while you pull the cover over the tapered end.

 

with splicing you have to find a way of making it all work for you, most new folks get stuck trying to fight against the rope. outsmart it, it is after all a non sentient substance

Jamie

[RobRainford]

I followed samisens directions by inserting at Mark c. I had got the cover all the way through to where it is in the pic. It's difficult to near impossible to get it to go past the core still in the rope. A wire fid and a pusher of some sort will help me next time.

 

I won't let it beat me!

[Jamie]

you'll struggle witha tubular fid, doing it on teh cheap, get an old metal wire coathanger. (or any reasonably tough wire) and bend it in half and create two loops on the other end. insert this in at point d and out at 2, exiting where the core that is poking out.

 

if you have to you can reduce the remaining strands so you end up with a super skinny tail, anchor that fid and pull. once you get it you'll feel stupid, once you get a few down you'll find em easy

 

Jamie

[John Shutler]

3metre ropeguide, got 2 big dismantles in the next 2 weeks so this will be ideal for chokeing round the stem when chogging down