Stop go signs

[D.G.F.S.]

I hope you also have your nptc hand held leaf blower ticket?

Never mind about the tickets, it’s a vis viz jacket you need for a blower

[D.G.F.S.]

Make that hi viz

[D.G.F.S.]

I don't know about other areas, but all of the Manchester Metropolitan Boroughs require a permit for occupying the highway when using traffic lights, I assume that stop/go lollipops would too. The fee for the permit is £400 + Vat 
 
It doesn't exactly encourage working properly.

We just did a chestnut removal within Cheshire east. Had to have a permit to be on the carriage way and Amberon for traffic management. I think ours was around £400. It all depends on the road width, visibility, type of road and traffic flow that determines the required traffic management. The council/highways will specify what’s needed. The good thing with having someone else responsible for traffic control (and pedestrians) is if shit hits the fan it’s on them.

[D.G.F.S.]

[Gary Prentice]

43 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Interested in people's thoughts on "Stop Works" boards.

 

Been a while since I've read the book, but from memory, I recall the potential for Stop Works boards to be a useful alternative (where suitable and the prerequisites are satisfied.)

 

The ability to stop traffic for (I think) 3 mins without going through the full TM procedure.  If I understand / recall correctly, the intention is to allow a short, un-scheduled traffic block - for example to reverse a wagon out onto the road or the like. 

 

So it has always occurred to me that this might suit the dismantle of a limb or 2 over a road.  Climb, face cut, rig, stop traffic, back cut, lower, ground crew collect and walk off the road, traffic proceeds - the stop traffic bit is all achieved within the 3 minutes allowed.  Never used it but have bought Stop Works boards just in case.

 

Any thoughts???? 

 

Just seen Gary's post.....  This could be embarrassing!  

The Manchester Highway Robbery, sorry Permit is for occupation of the highway, so possibly if you're not occupying the road i.e. vehicles and chippers parked off-road, stop/go boards could be used without one. I imagine that the relevant department would prefer the use of the permit (and the £400).

 

The three minute temporary stop used to be the 'go to' method in the past, but it could be real sketchy. Drivers could ignore the lads in the road, you'd get idiots overtaking already stopped traffic on the wrong side of the road and driving underneath the trees, all sorts.

 

[D.G.F.S.]

Yep, had idiots overtaking queuing traffic and had lads having to practically lie across the bonnet to stop them. Then you get the moron-crack head pedestrians ignoring a men at work sign, footpath closed sign, multiple layers of barrier tape, a chipper blocking 99% of the path and a brash pile. It’s hard to protect stupid.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

24 minutes ago, Gary Prentice said:

The Manchester Highway Robbery, sorry Permit is for occupation of the highway, so possibly if you're not occupying the road i.e. vehicles and chippers parked off-road, stop/go boards could be used without one. I imagine that the relevant department would prefer the use of the permit (and the £400).

 

The three minute temporary stop used to be the 'go to' method in the past, but it could be real sketchy. Drivers could ignore the lads in the road, you'd get idiots overtaking already stopped traffic on the wrong side of the road and driving underneath the trees, all sorts.

 

The Kernish method, regularly seen around Gunnislake which seems to have a disproportionate number of zipper-heads, is to stack the brash in the road.  Granted it'll likely be a single track road with goats and an occasional car, but none the less, bloody funny when you happen across them!  

[chopper brown]

26 minutes ago, D.G.F.S. said:

Yep, had idiots overtaking queuing traffic and had lads having to practically lie across the bonnet to stop them. Then you get the moron-crack head pedestrians ignoring a men at work sign, footpath closed sign, multiple layers of barrier tape, a chipper blocking 99% of the path and a brash pile. It’s hard to protect stupid.

 

Haha i like that "It's hard to protect stupid" you're so right.

 

Jim

[dig-dug-dan]

Sounds like this job is more trouble than its worth!

It would be ok if i could guarantee that pedestrians and motorists pay heed to what we are doing!

[felixthelogchopper]

14 minutes ago, dig-dug-dan said:

Sounds like this job is more trouble than its worth!

It would be ok if i could guarantee that pedestrians and motorists pay heed to what we are doing!

Farm the TM out to somebody else and add it on your quote. That way you don't need to worry about it.