Brit Girls - Fat

[WesD]

1 hour ago, matelot said:

 

Yeah fair one. Morbidly overweight people are likely to die decades earlier and spend time in a wheelchair due to their joints being destroyed.

 

However the real problem is people like me pointing these things out because I might hurt their feelings 

 

Anyway, according to the village idiot I can't help writing these posts. So it's bang out of order for you to criticise me for something I can't control.

Mental health is a real problem, no one is disagreeing that being overweight brings about its own health issues but your delivery on the topic amongst others is both shallow and shameful. 

[Gary Prentice]

2 hours ago, the village idiot said:

You may well have experienced the state of pure conciousness for brief moments whilst snowboarding or skiing if you are well practiced.

Similar with motorcycle riding, moments when you're a motorcycling god, in total sync with the bike and the surroundings.......

 

 

Then a taxi pulls out in front of you

[the village idiot]

6 minutes ago, Gary Prentice said:

Similar with motorcycle riding, moments when you're a motorcycling god, in total sync with the bike and the surroundings.......

 

 

Then a taxi pulls out in front of you

It is well worth taking note of these experiences as it shows conclusively that these 'states of being' are possible. They have the intrinsic nature of being extremely pleasurable and I would argue are a big part of why we fall in love with certain things.

 

The context in which you have this experience is very relevant. If you experience Self transcendence whilst riding a motorbike you fall in love with motorcycling. If you experience it whilst praying to God (a common occurance) you fall in love with God. Or more specifically, whichever God you have been pointed in the direction of.

 

My point is that these experiences are readily available to everyone but they have been hoovered up and branded as sacred by the World's religions. It is time we claimed them back.

[felixthelogchopper]

Just to check, I take it that everybody having a pop at fat people is an absolute stunner with the body of a Greek god?

[Gary Prentice]

Sting and Tantric sex comes to mind  Or am totally off the reservation there?

[Gary Prentice]

1 minute ago, felixthelogchopper said:

Just to check, I take it that everybody having a pop at fat people is an absolute stunner with the body of a Greek god?

Well, I don't know about you Felix, but you've just described me perfectly. Have we met?

[the village idiot]

Just now, Gary Prentice said:

Sting and Tantric sex comes to mind  Or am totally off the reservation there?

Not at all! I'm sure that could do it.

 

The interesting thing is so could eating a piece of cheese if you get your brain lined up properly!

[Gary Prentice]

2 minutes ago, Big J said:

It's always taken me a lot of effort to gain weight, and I find it almost impossible to overeat unless there is a stimulus (ie, I've been to the gym, hard day at work, long walk etc).

I once put on half a pound over christmas and lost within two days of going back to work.

 

I couldn't put mass on eating 6000-7000 calories a day, which was annoying, but I can now eat whatever I like and not worry about it. Family bar of chocolate anyone?

[matelot]

31 minutes ago, WesD said:

Mental health is a real problem, no one is disagreeing that being overweight brings about its own health issues but your delivery on the topic amongst others is both shallow and shameful. 

Ohh sorry, I must apologise for starting a thread that people have found interesting enough to respond to.

 

I bet you're a real laugh down the pub.

[Stubby]

6 hours ago, the village idiot said:

This will sound like complete claptrap but I think it is more accurate to view fat people as unlucky rather than as people who are making bad choices.

 

It is rather unsettling, but as we find out more about the brain and it's processes it is becoming increasingly clear that there is no such thing as free will. It feels very much like we can freely choose from a variety of options in any given moment, but the fact of the matter is that our brains produce a directive up to seven seconds before we are conciously aware of making a decision.

 

Our actions are pre-determined by our brains (which we didn't pick). We do not choose to do things in the way we think we do. Despite appearances, we are not in control. Our brains, shaped by our genes and our environment, lead us through life unconciously and our thoughts- also generated unconciously by the brain- scrabble to keep up and make sense of it all.)

 

It gets even spookier and more un-intuitive than that. It is now widely accepted among neurosientists and psychologists that our sense of self (the feeling of being an unchanging 'I' or 'me' situated in our heads, experiencing the world and located somewhere behind our eyes) is also an illusion, generated by our brains to help us get by in the world.

 

This is an incredibly difficult concept to get your head around, I understand it logically but it is really hard to map it onto our day to day experiece, mostly because the perceived sense of self (and it's partner in crime-free will) are so strong and we reinforce them constantly. There are however various ways to demonstrate that all is not as it seems.

 

If you are able to accept that free will and the sense of self are illusiory it radically changes your perception of things, particularly in terms of how you judge other people, their actions and most importantly...you.

 

Fat people are ultimately the victims of circumstances over which they had no concious control. As are we all.

 

This is not to say that people can't change. Brains can be influenced by all manner of inputs which can affect behaviour. The perspective shift is to realise that in a fundamental way the 'person' is not responsible. Blame the brain.

 

Notice your shift in perspective when you hear about Gary's sister's thyroid condition. The nature of our brains in any given moment is entirely analogous to this. Thyroid function is controlled unconciously by the brain, as are all human functions and thoughts.

 

Have a think about all this over the Christmas break, It's a confusing wild ride which can connect you more positively to all sentient beings including the one you call you!

How long was it after your brain told you to write this did you think Ah !  I'm gonna write this ......