How long will I be dragging brush before getting to climb?

[Khriss]

If he is anything like a good boss - he will encourage and build up his staff- if he just likes raking it in off the sweat of yr back then move on K

 

( What vehicle does he drive by the way ........ cos thats yr answer mate ! )

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

56 minutes ago, Khriss said:

What vehicle does he drive by the way ........ cos thats yr answer mate !

That's not a flawless equation K!  New vehicles are TAX EFFICIENT!!!  

[Shooter]

On 10/29/2017 at 19:59, Will Heal said:

Special climbing wellies!
To the op -
If you work hard, drag brash quicker than anyone else, do more than is expected of you then your boss will notice you and should be happy to let you have a go at climbing some of the easier trees if you keep nagging at him.
To many times I have seen newly qualified climbers moaning that they aren't given a chance to climb more whilst not putting the effort in.

yes I did make it clear I want to climb.  I will give it a bit more time and do as you suggest I think, continue trying to make a good impression.

[benedmonds]

7 minutes ago, Shooter said:

yes I did make it clear I want to climb.  I will give it a bit more time and do as you suggest I think, continue trying to make a good impression.

In a commercial operation it is difficult to give the new climbers the climbing experience, as that would mean the the work is being completed at a slower rate and the climber is working on the ground and therefore not working to their potential. This is why it is so expensive to train staff. its not the cost of the courses its the time.. You need to find an employer who is willing to give you the opportunity to get the experience.   It is catch 22, you are slow and uneconomic so you don't get the experience, and as you don't get any experience you never get faster.. Do as other have said. Practice in your own time, always offer to jump up the small stuff.

 

Offer to do a bit at the start or the end if there is time.  Work doubly hard on the ground so there is an extra time for you to fanny about in the tree..  One thing I used to do on big reduces was have the newbee up the tree at the start, as at that point you would normally have 2 guys watching you...it gave them the opportunity to climb the tree, see me doing it and do a bit but when the groundie was becoming swamped I would send them down.. The other really useful thing is to work for a company doing street trees as there is almost always the opportunity to do some climbing during the day..

[Khriss]

I did not say it was flawless Kev , but if he driving a top o the range Shogun an you cant get new saw trousers out of him ................K

[Khriss]

Ben ...it is more expensive to pass over a potential good climber than to wear him out on crap work , it is endemic in this industry and actually costs more . Lost quality-staff and retention of useless staff is a rubbish economic equation , K

[Steve Bullman]

8 minutes ago, Khriss said:

Ben ...it is more expensive to pass over a potential good climber than to wear him out on crap work , it is endemic in this industry and actually costs more . Lost quality-staff and retention of useless staff is a rubbish economic equation , K

Retention of useless staff...don’t get me started on that.  It’s not easy to get rid of useless staff these days unfortunately!

[Khriss]

Steve - It generally boils down to the quality of yr boss - I have been astonished at the idiots who have been kept on after smashing kit n vehicles or damaging stuff on the job , K

[felixthelogchopper]

20 hours ago, Steve Bullman said:

Retention of useless staff...don’t get me started on that.  It’s not easy to get rid of useless staff these days unfortunately!

You just need to wait until they light their fag by shorting out your new Transit.

[Khriss]

I would say its chipping berberis fr that one - Felix !! In their pants k