Potus ???

[Steven P]

I wonder why male suicide is a lot higher than women and why they don't open up about mental health issues. Can't be anything to do with 'manning up' and taking that abuse that comes with it?

 

 

In a world of hard manual labour there was a certain necessity to create 'hard' boys and young adults regardless of mental health. Technology and machinery has all but eliminated manual labour (current forum excepted - I can appreciate the irony of me saying this here), there is no need to bully and belittle in Schools - or the workplace and wider society - to create tough boys - it does no one any good and is a detriment to todays society I think.

[GarethM]

If you want to use the term man up, it's about swallowing what the world throws at you and keep on going without loosing your cool.

 

It's not about creating hard men it's about creating individual resilience, the ability to deal with whatever is thrown at you, when even the army asks your pronouns we know the slippery slope is more a vertical drop.

[peds]

Maybe we should make mandatory bullying a part of the curriculum. 40 minutes twice weekly. But where would we find the kind of teacher willing to deliver such a monstrous lesson?

 

Oh, now it all falls into place. Is that the part of education you were hoping to get into? Roughing up the theatre kids and beating all the left-handed?

[GarethM]

8 minutes ago, peds said:

Maybe we should make mandatory bullying a part of the curriculum. 40 minutes twice weekly. But where would we find the kind of teacher willing to deliver such a monstrous lesson?

 

Oh, now it all falls into place. Is that the part of education you were hoping to get into? Roughing up the theatre kids and beating all the left-handed?

Better than teaching them that the world ending and on fire, like you would!.

 

You've obviously never worked in a workshop or large low paid organisation prior to 2008, no bullying but plenty of taking the P**s.

[Steven P]

Taking the piss - where deserved and banter is one thing, fair and even and to all, but a systematic single out of an individual to be the butt of all banter, all piss takes isn't.

 

If your children came in and told you they didn't want to go to school any more because another child or group was bullying them, what would you do? Force the child to school with no changes made because 'it is good for them to suffer' yet knowing that your child sitting in fear in the class room is never going to bring the best out of them, they'll never fulfil their potential? But life lesson learnt.

 

 

 

 

(As an edit, and a side comment, there is millions spent every year on child mental health professionals dealing with exactly this - the school refusers because of bullying, that is millions that could be spent on proper doctors and nurses!)

Edited July 24, 2024 by Steven P

[GarethM]

As usual you and Peds always have to go to the absolute extremes, where did I say extremes ?.

 

Where did I advocate beating or beasting?.

The answer for those that can't read, is I didn't you just automatically assumed it.

 

As for the bs extreme scenario, I came out fine. Those that did the beating mostly ended up drunk, druggies or prison.

[Yournamehere]

1 hour ago, GarethM said:

You know you've just reinforced my argument, snowflakes and most activists have zero emotional control!.

 

Maybe instead of having a little paddy & stomping your feet, you form an actual argument or has gentle parenting ruined you ?.

You know NOTHING about me.

I was being resilient: if that's what you want to call it. People like you made me resilient; but I'm bigger now, I fight back. But, since you mention it, let me tell you about my parenting. My parenting involved me getting hit round the head whenever my father didn't like what I had done or said. But I expect it made a man of me eh? Or a snowflake? Take your choice it makes no odds; but do not advocate violence against children and expect to get away with it.

[peds]

26 minutes ago, GarethM said:

You've obviously never worked in a workshop or large low paid organisation prior to 2008, no bullying but plenty of taking the P**s.

 

Haa ha haahaa! Maaate, I've worked in kitchens since I was 14. You have absolutely no idea!

 

Bullying... helpful for a child's development... You've got a screw loose.

 

[Yournamehere]

Oh and far from having a paddy/temper tantrum; I am sitting here very quietly and coolly: a zen-like calm has descended upon my lunch-break. Thank you.

[GarethM]

1 minute ago, Yournamehere said:

Oh and far from having a paddy/temper tantrum; I am sitting here very quietly and coolly: a zen-like calm has descended upon my lunch-break. Thank you.

Keep telling yourself that while you cry into you soya latte.

 

As per you three, you seem to always go to the extreme, instead of actually reading the words written you Assume.

 

DID i say anything about physical, well... NO I didn't did I.