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  1. 1. Next POTUS?

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

A couple of clarifications:

 

Trump: Not good, obviously the words I wrote were confusing. Trump didn't stop the war in 1 day. His involvement particularly with that press conference and cosying up to Putin has condemned many more Ukrainian deaths than if he had done nothing.

 

Putin does not respect Trump.

 

'Spunking it up the wall'... a small country fighting a military superpower and - get this - mostly holding its own - Putin was a bit surprised that they weren't a walk over. All the military power of Russia is being held off by what little The Ukraine can acquire. The amount at their disposal holding off a multi-multi-billion war machine sounds like they are are making every Hyrvnia count.

 

 

 

 

So what to do? Well, Trump can try his 'day one' master plan. That might help. Failing that he can use that great respect (?) that Putin has for him to agree an immediate ceasefire till negotiations can occur, that would stop many many 'horrible deaths'. 

 

 

 

Imagine the MAGA public reaction to see a 'communist' leader sitting in the oval office chatting to the president ('Communist' = 'Russian' in their educated eyes in most cases), sure that will go down well!

What " little country" are you talking about?

 

Ukraine is the second largest country in Europe after Russia.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Putin doesn't respect trump.

 

Spunking it up the wall'

 

So what to do? Well, Trump can try his 'day one' master plan. That might help. Failing that he can use that great respect (?) that Putin has for him to agree an immediate ceasefire till negotiations can occur, that would stop many many 'horrible deaths'.

Firstly he does respect him, Putin knows that if they did fire a nuke very unlikely.

 

Donald has the balls to call him and wouldn't hesitate to fire, that's why they respect eachother, a mutual knowledge they would do what's necessary not sit and talk about feelings.

 

Spunking up against the wall, yes whilst the results are many dead people it's hardly much more than a constant stalemate.

 

A historical analogy is WW1 trench warfare, lots of death but not much movement. Wasn't it like 10,000 an inch or something mental for Messine ridge?.

 

So trump in his month ish, has got the balls moving and you're still moaning he said a day.

 

Well uncle Joe/saint Obama and alike had what 8 years+ and achieved the sum of diddly except a few graveyards of wasted lives!.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Mike Hill said:

What " little country" are you talking about?

 

Ukraine is the second largest country in Europe after Russia.

 

Russia :Area just over 17,000,000 sq km

Ukraine area just over 600,000 sq km (about 3%)

 

Russia GDP $2,000,000,000,000

Ukraine GDP $ 900,000,000,000 (about half)

 

Russia population 143,000,000

Ukraine population  38,000,000 (about 1/4)

 

Russian Army (before Ukraine war) about 1,000,000

Ukraine Army (before Ukraine war) about  200,000 (or 1/5)

 

Yes, it is a little country.

Posted
9 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Firstly he does respect him, Putin knows that if they did fire a nuke very unlikely.

 

Donald has the balls to call him and wouldn't hesitate to fire, that's why they respect eachother, a mutual knowledge they would do what's necessary not sit and talk about feelings.

 

Spunking up against the wall, yes whilst the results are many dead people it's hardly much more than a constant stalemate.

 

A historical analogy is WW1 trench warfare, lots of death but not much movement. Wasn't it like 10,000 an inch or something mental for Messine ridge?.

 

So trump in his month ish, has got the balls moving and you're still moaning he said a day.

 

Well uncle Joe/saint Obama and alike had what 8 years+ and achieved the sum of diddly except a few graveyards of wasted lives!.

 

Think the respect thing - Putin has no respect for Trump but is not stupid to fire a nuke into the heart of Europe. No respect though.

 

Trump in a month has got things moving.... so long as 'moving' you mean 'telling The Ukraine to surrender'

 

Biden and Obama.... are you resorting to the old argument of "This guy is bad but look over there, bad guysd too so this bad guy is OK", though I suspect that Biden and Obama weren't accepting that the Ukraine just roll over and let Russia invade at will. That's Trumps playbook.

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Posted
17 hours ago, Steven P said:

 

Russia :Area just over 17,000,000 sq km

Ukraine area just over 600,000 sq km (about 3%)

 

Russia GDP $2,000,000,000,000

Ukraine GDP $ 900,000,000,000 (about half)

 

Russia population 143,000,000

Ukraine population  38,000,000 (about 1/4)

 

Russian Army (before Ukraine war) about 1,000,000

Ukraine Army (before Ukraine war) about  200,000 (or 1/5)

 

Yes, it is a little country.

 

So. Back to my original point.Ukraine is the second largest country in Europe after Russia.

 

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Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, Mike Hill said:

 

So. Back to my original point.Ukraine is the second largest country in Europe after Russia.

 

 

But in comparison, a small country, holding back a massive country with very limited resources which was my point.

 

But you are only comparing land area though, which to be honest does not represent power, if so that would indicate that after Russia, Khazakstan is a European powerhouse

 

If you are to look at all the other European countries, the Ukraine falls low down the list with almost every ranking.... apart from your land area.

 

 

So big bully boy invades small nation. Small nation is using its resources wisely to make every Hyrvnia count.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Steven P said:

 

But in comparison, a small country, holding back a massive country with very limited resources which was my point.

 

But you are only comparing land area though, which to be honest does not represent power, if so that would indicate that after Russia, Khazakstan is a European powerhouse

 

If you are to look at all the other European countries, the Ukraine falls low down the list with almost every ranking.... apart from your land area.

 

 

So big bully boy invades small nation. Small nation is using its resources wisely to make every Hyrvnia count.

 

You are once again pushing the boundaries of the term " talking bollocks".

 

You speak " hyper-sonic bollocks".

 

Untruths so vast and fast moving,they tear the very air they pass through.You miss the point by nautical miles as the bollocks you speak climbs towards the heavens at Mach5.

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