Potus ???

[Anno]

So i posted a few quotes from the Guardian re free speach and the spiralling down of any kind of platform for debate and rationalisation of an issue in the wider context globally and it caused the usual 'he did; 'you did' 'your a libtard / fascist/ paedo' bullshit.

 

Said it before and i still maintain it, this place has become an absolute cess pit of hate and bad communication, for **************** sake Oldfeller bang up some Bachman Turner Overdrive and lets talk about Root Plate assessing and Chain Brake lengths.

[Big J]

52 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Soliciting isn't rape is it, maybe your legal training ended on the first day of work experience.

 

Akin to a sting operation on TV where they arrest the guy for giving money to an undercover cop posing as a prostitute.

 

But like that attorney general, wasn't he a "Solicitor" until he wasn't.

 

It's not defense, it's as you like to keep inferring words have meaning.

 

And you're level of calling him a rapist is beyond obsessive, I don't vote for the labour and their legalise child love party, or MAP as they wanted it calling.

 

I think you are perhaps the first person I've ever heard of, anywhere, who is defending Epstein. Even Marjorie Taylor Green is demanding a full publishing of the Epstein files.

 

There is no scenario here where your defense of a convicted child sex offender is going to further your agenda or reflect well on you. Why you persist is honestly beyond me.

[GarethM]

9 minutes ago, Big J said:

I think you are perhaps the first person I've ever heard of, anywhere, who is defending Epstein. Even Marjorie Taylor Green is demanding a full publishing of the Epstein files.

 

There is no scenario here where your defense of a convicted child sex offender is going to further your agenda or reflect well on you. Why you persist is honestly beyond me.

Do you actually listen to the drivel you lefty types spout, all waffle about how words are sooooo important.

 

Yet you don't actually seem to understand he wasn't a convicted kiddy de fiddler, a wrongun yes, convicted no, bit like Jimmy and Andrew.

 

It's all hearsay, even the files aren't going to prove much of anything, he's hardly going to have written a diary entry detailing it with some scoring system.

 

If video gets released that's a different matter but I'm sure both bill's have wiped those.

[Steven P]

1 hour ago, GarethM said:

Soliciting isn't rape is it, maybe your legal training ended on the first day of work experience.

 

Legally, yes.

 

A child is considered unable to make an informed decision, and without it that it is rape.

 

 

Any sex with a child is rape.

Any sex with a child is immoral.

Why are you tying to defend Epstein?

[Steven P]

11 minutes ago, GarethM said:

Yet you don't actually seem to understand he wasn't a convicted kiddy de fiddler

 

Yes he was.

 

 

 

[GarethM]

7 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Legally, yes.

 

A child is considered unable to make an informed decision, and without it that it is rape.

 

Any sex with a child is rape.

Any sex with a child is immoral.

Why are you tying to defend Epstein?

Why don't you read what you wrote, soliciting isn't rape is it.

 

Therefore what you keep shouting would be liable as it's legally untrue.

[Steven P]

On 13/08/2025 at 19:44, GarethM said:

There's a big difference between some random bloke raping someone in a park and what Jimmy and Epstein did, but as usual you just can't comprehend grey area's can you.

 

 

Again, no there isn't. It is still raping a child.

[Oldfeller]

27 minutes ago, Anno said:

So i posted a few quotes from the Guardian re free speach and the spiralling down of any kind of platform for debate and rationalisation of an issue in the wider context globally and it caused the usual 'he did; 'you did' 'your a libtard / fascist/ paedo' bullshit.

 

Said it before and i still maintain it, this place has become an absolute cess pit of hate and bad communication, for **************** sake Oldfeller bang up some Bachman Turner Overdrive and lets talk about Root Plate assessing and Chain Brake lengths.

I don't doubt your conclusion based on what I see here either, I suspect we may not agree on the main protagonists.

that said saws and music can hopefully be a better medium for a more friendly engagement.

It has become blatantly obvious the discord on here started long before I arrived and just happened to agree with some of the posters apparently involved in that.

I was even accused of being somebody else, simply because I posted in a similar way to another person, you couldn't make it up.

B.T.O incoming

[tree-fancier123]

If these young women were 16 or 17 at the time it is not really any different to Burlusconi and Ruby The Heart Stealer.  

Child sex offender - seems shagging anyone under 18 in the states is enough to earn that label

[GarethM]

6 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Again, no there isn't. It is still raping a child.

No, soliciting is giving them money for favours.

 

Paying for something you don't do isn't rape, that why the crime has a different title.

 

Rape is a physical act, bit like Bill in the oval office with a cigar tube, he didn't but instructed her.