Potus ???

[Mark J]

2 minutes ago, sime42 said:

But he's better than Biden ................

And we're no longer part of Europe, and we don't like Europe anyway..............

Hence Trump and his ensemble are good. 

QED

Which continent is the UK in now? I must have missed that. 

[Steven P]

At a risk of distraction from the headline thread there is a correction. It is the Europeans we don't like, mostly the Belgians, Europe is OK as a land mass - the whole premise of Brexit was we don't want the Europeans working in the UK (though hypocritically we are OK with British workers working in the EU), we don't want them popping over here freely for holidays (though hypocritically we are OK to pop over there freely for holidays), and we don't want them stealing 'our' fish (though hypocritically the fish we want, cod, tend to hang out in EU waters more than ours). Brexit made it clear however that we don't like the Europeans but much prefer those from further afield to fill the gaps they emptied.

 

 

Though yes, got to go with the thought of "that man is bad so this man is OK despite also being bad" with respect to Biden being a smokescreen for Trumps discretions.

[peds]

[peds]

[GarethM]

6 minutes ago, peds said:

So with you're constant sh1t posting, did your offer get lost in the post ?

[Steven P]

Not really Gareth, was it Boris Johnson most recently and his cabinet who fell foul from using whatsapp ? Lost a lot of very important messages (from sender and receiver) when one of them lost their phone access? Not sure about the US government, I assume they are similar but at least in the UK official communications shouldn't go through systems such as whatsapp:

 

Meta (their owners) claim that 'most' communications use end to end security... but not all and the system allows the communications to be 'intercepted' (not quite the right word) and saved on their servers... and so can be viewed on their by anyone with access or snooping about

 

There is no control once you get the message, there is no paper trail easily available if you want to forward that message onwards. With in email systems there is an audit trail as to where e-mails are forwarded and these are saved

 

For the government, and the US government does this too, there is no record keeping, no accountability, the messages bypass the official systems (as we found that the Johnson enquiries were unable to acquire copies of government messeges sent via whatsapp).

 

Now lets consider that they have been in charge for 2 months now, that security brief must have been quite recent, so either they are very stupid to have used the system despite security briefs.... or they did it purposefully to bypass all checks and accountability. Stupid both ways. And then to add in a reporter, and no one took a moment to ask who everyone was on the message? Double stupid.

 

It is OK though, Trump wasn't involved there so you should be OK to say "Yes, the guys are idiots"

[peds]

 

 

All messages if anyone wants to read them.

[Steven P]

Fairly clear that shouldn't be on a META owned platform and someone should have verified the audience.

[peds]

[Mark J]

26 minutes ago, peds said:

While that is a reasonable assertion I think the situation is much, much worse than that; I think the reality is that they think we're all thick as mince, and that they are are deluded  enough to think that we can't tell. 

Edited Wednesday at 23:18 by Mark J