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How much does processed hardwood firewood sell for in bulk?
gdh replied to mtp's topic in Firewood forum
Dry, tidy firewood averages £95-100 a cube at the moment if you can load a lorry. -
We're up to £225 for 1.8 cube of kiln dried hardwood for this winter. Delivered up to 20 miles away. It's not ideal but we're having to pay a premium to get hold of any hardwood this year. A lot of firewood suppliers have gone out of business so we seem to be busier than ever so far.
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About 550kg fresh and 350 dry for hardwood but there's big variations depending on the log type and size.
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We kiln dry 1800 tons of hardwood a year using 150 tons of softwood, probably less, although we are transferring over to using more waste. We store about 300 tons at a time so using 6 times the space wouldn't be practical. Drying cost is about £10 a cube. When the RHI runs out we won't be stopping because I don't think we could air dry on this scale. Definitely not with the climate in mid Wales and with kiln drying we know the quality is there with every box. The cost of electric is probably the biggest worry although we have just put solar panels in so we'll see how it goes...
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I didn't take a card so I was thirsty and hungry until I happened to see a shop in the campsite which was ridiculous although to be fair on the organisers they weren't told either. Overall I thought the show was really good this year. I spent most my time with the machinery although Milwaukee had some good stuff including the dual battery chainsaw and the chainsaw carving is always impressive. I think the shop was the same as last year but smaller than precovid. The visitor numbers seemed way down from the parking but also less onlookers.
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I've used the Milwaukee one and it cuts well, battery lasts plenty of time and it cuts up to 32mm or you can do faster half cuts. £230+vat. They also do a big 3m telescopic which cuts 44mm for £460+vat but I haven't tried it
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Roadside £55 for chip, can't help with milling sorry but more than £55 😉
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I'm just answering based on what I was charged last year by some self employed (and to be fair very good) fellers when I needed some extra help. They were £180 average and labourers are £100-120. Usually I'm one of the ones going out so that's my profit, I said £650 to cover other costs and obviously they'll be some more on the machinery. I would usually charge per ton or for the job anyway but this job sounds quite unique.
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He said the machinery is separate I thought? Edit: My mistake, maybe the chipper was included. My £650 was just what 2 on saws and 2 labourers would be locally if they were decent.
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If it's anything like the Welsh version check what paperwork you need, I had to have health and safety plans, haulier questionnaires, first aid training and forestry works manager training just to buy roadside and still failed on some minor things so I I've stopped trying because it's too geared towards the massive buyers. In terms of bids I would put £55 for softwood and £80 for hard but you never know who could put £90 or £100 in these days.
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£650 is what comes to mind not including any machinery but it depends if you're looking at it as a harvesting job or something else. And location, speed etc.
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It's easier when you're looking from the side.if you have a mark. Only takes 2 seconds and means you don't have to keep checking.
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What will an ash woodland look like in 10 years time?
gdh replied to 5lab's topic in Forestry and Woodland management
I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread so apologies if I double post . From what I understand only about 1% will be immune to dieback and maybe 5% will recover so I would work on the basis it's all going to be dead. There are immune varieties of ash (so far) but I think it's still being worked on and you would be very lucky to have them. In terms of felling, if they're a reasonable size then access is more important than slopes but from experience of harvesting ash die back I would say to halve any estimate of standing volume because it shatters everywhere. If they look badly affected they're usually even worse inside on bigger trees.