Gary Prentice

Always. But you should have seen the response I wrote and didn't post:lol:

They are and are the only ones who can be (the ICF) because the Queen won't give anyone else the ability to award chartered status. The ICF started out under a different name that highlighted arboriculturists/arboriculture. Although the AA is a trade body, it seems a poor, derogatory title for an organization that's overcome its historic internal issues and now does so much to advance arboriculture in the UK.

Sorry for being a pedant. :001_tongue:The AA are IMO a lot more 'user friendly' and approachable.

Strictly speaking the ICF is the professional body for arboriculture in the Uk The UK?s Leading Professional Body for Forestry and Arboriculture

I wish I'd never asked:001_rolleyes:

Did you? I didn't get an opportunity to view it.

"Such a stance was held in the case of Chapman v Barking and Dagenham LBC [1997], and prior to this the case of Caminer v Northern & London Investment Trust ruled that whilst the lopping of the elm tree in that instance would be appropriate to remedy the situation that manifested when the tree failed and caused injury to the claimant, it would make the tree more dangerous in the long term and must therefore be expected more frequently." Inspected or expected? I really good, useful read. I'm going to save this for future reference.

:thumbup1:Now sorted,

You're a gent..

Has anyone got a copy of the article 'Root architecture and tree stability' - 1983, written by M P Coutts. As I'm not sure it contains the information I need, I don't fancy spending £30.00 on purchasing it from Springer:sneaky2: I'd rather give someone on here something for it:biggrin:

I remember seeing at least two beech, along with some other species, that had snapped at the graft union during the great Storm. But that was an extraordinary weather event, so generally I'd agree with you.

Not a bargain, but Elm by Richens was recently recommended to me. Apart from from the out-dated nomenclature used, what a book! If anyone stumbles across it, buy it As a note for stubbie: hornbeam was often identified as an elm in the early literature

I've just moved from the office back to keep at home. Now I need to organize some shelving.

Bonus. Every day's a school day as they say.

More work for pins then?

That's surprising, considering a PC can read his notebook in criminal cases. I suppose that there's some chain of evidence procedure involved somewhere though. Are they notes based on memory or a journal/diary/work book written at the time in question?

A far better answer than mine

I've served a five day notice when agreement hasn't been reached with the LA and done the works. This was after the appeals inspector had stated that a large limb would fail and then completely ignored it in the rest of his report. I figured that if the council were so adamant it was unnecessary, they could take me to court. But based on the written evidence of the inspector they would struggle to prove the risk wasn't imminent, immediately necessary and the minimum necessary. (and therefore exempt) I'm not suggesting that you break the law necessarily, but if you feel so strongly you can force their hand.

Not being argumentative, but that's a very low level of occupation compared with a roadside tree, for example. Quantifying the risk may allow a 'more dangerous' tree to remain in those circumstances.

Are you asking if the individual officer assumes the liability or the authority as an organization? The compensation component is fairly straight forward - more so now that article 5 certificates are no more. As I understand it compensation is claimable where a refusal of consent leads to an foreseeable economic loss. I don't think the LA would become liable unless it was actually negligent, refusing the application for reasons that were so outside of generally accepted practice that they were off the reservation. So much involving trees is down to personal opinion, that there is no clear-cut black or white. At the end of the day, isn't it only the judiciary who decide, for each particular incident, what the actual law is? For the poster who questions the LA officers knowledge/experience/qualifications. In the event of an incident, the authority would be questioned about that officers ability to make the decision - would they be deemed negligent by employing that person in that role?

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Have you a photo of all the lawn, to put these patches into context?

Probably overthinking it, but being plastic they're not going to decompose wherever you leave them. In good conscience, I'd remove them.

Chain wants tightening! I'm surprised how much lift these machines have actually got

Ouch! I'll keep an eye out, I sometimes trawl through the tree books on ebay when I can't sleep, looking for early tree books and oddities. I'll buy 'body language' if I see it and offer it up on here (at cost) because I know a few people are after it. Just looked on a couple of used book sites:sneaky2: sheer profiteering by sellers on used copies.